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ParticipantStacey,
As before, why do they need to be replaced?
If you are selling them, how much will they go for and can they be reconditioned?
$240 is not cheap for a transponder but I’d like to know if a used one will be useable or not.
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ParticipantGreat idea but a bad weekend for me as I already have a condo rented for skiing. If this gets pushed back (hopefully due to great snow in the mountains) then I’d be up for it the following weekend.
On another note, I have the same question about transponders. I’d consider getting one but at the prices they go for I want to be sure they will work at all tracks. Is that the case?
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ParticipantI’m fairly new into karting, but have worked on other events and the more tracks we can get involved from a wider area, the better. An event at CRE might bring some of their racers to other tracks, benefitting all CO Karting.
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ParticipantDoes this mean 4 tag classes all running separately, or tags running together?
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ParticipantWhile I see that long term 4 strokes will be “the future” it may take a while for that to occur. As a relative newby (I got my kart July 2006) I suggest that you look for a good used kart to get started. I’ve seen a couple of good deals posted on this site for not much more than a new chassis alone. That could get you started and well on your way having fun while you decide on the details of 4 vs 2 cycles after several times out at the tracks. By then you could decide to stick with a 2 cycle or buy a new engine 4 or 2 cycle, while selling off the old engine.
Personally, and I could be wrong, engines need a re-build based on how hard and hot they are run. If you are not racing or only starting on a club race here or there then I suspect you will be able to make a Leopard last a lot longer than 20 hours (assuming you run it a bit rich and cool). Now if you are racing every month or try to get everything out of the engine each day at the track then that 20 hours will happen at 20 hours.
jj
ParticipantHey, I’ve been hoping for someone newer than me to fill up the spots (or lack thereof) behind me 😀
things are pretty simple although I’ve only run at a few places and only raced club races at The Track. Tag Masters is a great group to race with and it is also the largest group out there. Lots of people to help out and a really fun class. I got my kart in July and had a blast running in two club races this fall.
Just show up at the tracks and ask questions. Having the checkbook and a good attitude is all you’ll need for quite a while.
Welcome to a fun racing event.
BTW, while the CSC has official numbers you are best to ask a track owner and double check for any numbers used by CSC racers so far. I’m using #12 as that was open, but there are a lot of open numbers. Perhaps we could have someone post open or taken numbers.
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ParticipantWell, I’m interested in this but I think that 200 laps is a bit extreme for a first try at this. Also, will one set of MG Yellows last 200 laps???
How about 100 laps for a start. If this can be set up then I’d be looking for a team or perhaps could join in on one.
Does everyone race in one kart and if so do you need to get people who fit in the same seat size?
Alternatively do you switch karts but swap tires?
jj
ParticipantWell, I might help clog up the passing lanes if I can get my times down a bit more by next season.
jj
ParticipantSurvey… What survey? Guess I better hunt around the site a bit more.
I’m planning on being at The Track tomorrow.
I understand the frustration factor. While I’m still a relative novice to karting I used to be at the top end of RC Car and Truck racing back in Chicago and also race R/C pylon planes. It can be very frustrating having the power to pass and getting stuck behind someone you’re trying to lap for the second time, then losing your opportunity because there are only a couple laps left. Worse yet is getting nerfed trying to pass because the novice was trying to do you a favor and get out of the way. 😥
Knowing that, what I’ve also found is that good racers can pass in two or three sections of the course while great racers can pass in five or six sections of a course. The best just don’t seem to get blocked as often. That is why watching a good F1 race is so exciting.
But I do absolutely agree that novice drivers need to learn if you’re going to get lapped you can’t get in the way of the race for the top positions. Heck, I like the chance to stay on a good drivers tail so I can learn how they get around the course so fast. I view it as an opportunity to learn how to drive the best line.
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ParticipantI didn’t mean to imply that there would never be any issues in a mixed group.
I don’t know the specifics of the individuals or race that you’re talking about but from what you’ve stated it appeared that one of the two drivers made it past the novice driver and the other didn’t. We all can run into some unfortunate timing but to me, the person who made it past is the better driver.
There is a big difference between racing and qualifying.
If all that people want to know is who can make it around the track faster then they should stop driving after the qualifying round. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t a bad break from time to time, but everyone on the track has to make it past everyone else on the track. That is racing.
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ParticipantI like Jim’s idea. Perhaps with a few suggestions.
First, the thing I like is that with all karts of a type racing at the same time but different “licenses” or whatever you want o call them, you get more racing in and against more people. If the top guys can’t get past a relative newby, then they need to improve their skills anyway. The best won’t have a problem with a mixed field and this will help the novices learn how to get better, faster.
I think the time splits are very narrow and could probably use a bit more of a difference. I mean 1.5 seconds for the middle group???
Seems this could get blown past pretty quickly. Either simplify to two groups A & B with 57or 8 sec the split (for TaG) or make the middle group a bit wider.The way the sandbagger issue gets solved in other competitive type events is simple. Win in your class 2 or 3 times and you are bumped to the next class mid-season. I’ve even seen where a combo of two wins and one second place bumps people to the next class.
We could even make things a lot simpler. Make the A-B or ABC classes evenly sized. If someone keeps finishing ahead or behind people from the next class up or down 3 times, they move up or down. Forget the qualifying lap time. The person who finishes better or worse deserves to compete in the next higher or lower class regardless of how fast they make it around the track one time in a time trial situation.
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ParticipantThere are sample maps with race studio, but it is still not clear to me how to import a map for the Track. It looks like you could just import the file. My Mychron didn’t come with a large manual that explained this.
Does anyone have a Race Studio file that could be imported?
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ParticipantSo I’m reading a few things (the same things I could take off of an R/C combat or pylon site as well). CO karting isn’t broken but needs minor tweaking to keep interest up and grow new participants.
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Limited number of classes (less than 9, maybe as few as 6 or 7)Short race day (maybe split up into separate days for younger and older groups and do 1/2 day races with rentals for the afternoons)
Keep equipment useful for multiple years.
<Can someone more experienced in karting propose something that meets these general guidelines and see if people will support it. My theory is that a good strawman proposal will go a lot further than just citing issues.
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ParticipantWell, what a way for a new karter to start off on the site.
Suffice to say I’ve participated in many competitive regional and national level events and the general bickering is no different anywhere else.
What I’ve seen fail:
Too many classes
Changes to equipment every year (or at all)
No ability to drop an event or two due to things like “day job” priorities, attending weddings, funerals etc.What works:
ability for lots of people to easily participateMy suggestion:
Stop talking about meetings and what track is this or that type.
Propose something and see if people agree, disagree or revise it.Nothing works like a good strawman to start a constructive discussion.
BTW, 6 or 7 people calling the shots is an oligarchy, not a dictatorship.
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