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- November 30, 2006 at 1:31 pm #41801Angie MacEwenParticipant
It was suggested at the meeting that there be more consideration given to the Greeley Grand Prix, even though it is on a holiday weekend, rather than going back to Steamboat.
People also seemed to be very much in favor of seeing CRE on the CSC schedule. George at CRE contacted me to see what we can do to make it happen, and the existing CSC tracks are willing to look at it, as well.
So, I would like to know how you, the racers, feel about the CSC having an event at CRE. That could be the 5th race, bumping both temp courses off of the schedule to keep with the 5 races / no drops concept.
-angieNovember 30, 2006 at 3:22 pm #55631AnonymousInactive
Here at S.A.C. Motorsports we would be in favor of the race at CRE as it would be less expensive for the racers to go there instead of Steamboat Springs where the costs of hotels are rather expensive as well as the distance being further away. Steamboat Springs is a beautiful place but I think CRE would be a much better choice for the racers/families.
Just mine and my son’s, Seth’s opinion.
Seth ChapaNovember 30, 2006 at 3:36 pm #55632AnonymousInactive
Some hesitation here since Conner and I really enjoyed GGP as part of CSC last year, it was our favorite race and was attended by our extended family which was a first, but if we have to keep to the magical number of only five races and if the current CSC track owners and George can resolved their “issues and past history” so a race at CRE is a pleasant experience for the racers then why not? We can least try it for one year. Now with that said if CRE does become part of CSC, it is obvious to everyone that CRE will adhere to the CSC rules, correct? Because from what I remember at the meeting with George that issue never seemed to get fully resolved. Other than that can CRE handle all the pit spots for a CSC event?
Now for argument sake, if CRE and CSC can?t get things resolved for next year then what is the backup plan for the fifth race: Steamboat or Greeley??November 30, 2006 at 3:38 pm #55633Angel RamirezParticipant
I really think that is the best idea so far,racers wake up and post your opinion. 😆November 30, 2006 at 4:24 pm #55634Eddy WyattParticipant
As I have suggested privately and publicly at the CSC meeting, I believe a CSC race at CRE would be a good thing for Colorado Karting.
Just my opinion.
Eddy WyattNovember 30, 2006 at 4:39 pm #55635AnonymousInactive
I think including CRE would be great. If the past issues can be laid to rest I think it would be a great event, the track is alot of fun to drive, is in great shape. I don’t see pitting being an issue, even if the spots on the asphalt runners fill there is still alot of additional room. I saw this the other day too, looks like the tracks lenght is gonna be changing a fair bit. 😆 George want to shed some light?November 30, 2006 at 4:46 pm #55636Jon RomeneskoParticipant
Never been to CRE, always wanted to go, heard good things about the track. Personally, i’d love to race there. I thoroughly enjoyed the GGP, it was a great event, and I really like the idea of a temp track to sort of highlight the season (sort of like our own Long Beach GP, right?). But, I’d agree that the CSC needs to go to CRE more than a temp track.
What about rotating in a temp event every other year, or something like that? Just a thought…November 30, 2006 at 5:00 pm #55637Doug WelchParticipant
I was at Steamboat last week and saw that they have added paving to the parking lot. Unfortunately, they did nothing to the existing lot. What they did was pave what we used for pit area the last few years. So they could move the pits to the south end and that would at least give us some new pavement to drive on.
We have more laps at CRE than any other track in the state. I still recommend it to new drivers who are looking for a place to learn how to drive a go kart. My main concerns are related to safety. The track is very narrow. There is really only one safe place to pass If a driver is not a gentleman, there will be contact. A driver who is 2 seconds slow can hold up another easily by making only one move about the start finish line on the front straight. It leads to frustration and is inherently dangerous.
In general, I’ve seen a disturbing trend towards blocking. I guess our drivers have been watching too much F1. In CRE’s current configuration, if we allow one move, it could get ugly. I personally like the old SKUSA rule on blocking. Blocking is defined as any deviation from the accepted racing line to prevent a pass. If we adopted such a rule, it would make the racing at CRE safer.November 30, 2006 at 5:28 pm #55638AnonymousInactive
Seth and I have raced there for many years and personally we think the CRE track is very wide and we have found that there are many places where pass’s can be made safely and easily. CRE is certainly wider than the track at Bandimere Speedway and certainly alot safer. I have nothing personal against Bandimere’s kart track, but I know for a fact that CRE is in better condition and is certainly safer than Bandimere’s kart track. Just so everyone knows, I personally think JB and his wife put on a great event there for the CSC.
Seth ChapaNovember 30, 2006 at 9:01 pm #55639Mike CunninghamParticipant
Nothing personal here, Tim when you speak for the racers I hope you are not speaking for me. You say it will save the racers money to have the CSC at CRE. Not for the western slope or for the eastern uath racers. Nothing aginest CRE but the championship should be ran where there is NO home feild advanage, where ever that may be.November 30, 2006 at 9:15 pm #55640Mike JansenParticipant
1) Championship at a temp track is truly an equalizer of racers and the cream of the crop rises.
2) Until GGP moves to any other weekend besides Memorial Day I’m with my family. That’s non-negotiable
3) Never been to George’s track. Would like to go there but once again we screw the western slope racer if we go to CRE instead of Steamboat and I really liked going to Steamboat since it was a nice getaway and I’ll have to get a hotel regaurdless of CRE or Steamboat and a few extra $$$ for gas to Steamboat shouldn’t be a deciding factor.
Next year throw CRS into the fray once the addition’s done. This year let’s stick to Steamboat. The wives and girlfriends will thank us!November 30, 2006 at 9:24 pm #55641Doug WelchParticipant
The two Mikes bring up a very good point. A race at CRE benefits us front range guys but certainly puts it to the west slope guys. From that stand point, maybe we should stick with the ‘Boat.November 30, 2006 at 10:22 pm #55642Stu WatermanParticipant
Steamboat or GGP. A temp track is a great equalizer to round out the series. If we’re set on the “no racing on holidays” theme for the CSC this year, then it’s Steamboat.
If we up the series to 6 races, then add in CRE.November 30, 2006 at 10:33 pm #55643AnonymousInactive
I feel the same as Stu.November 30, 2006 at 11:14 pm #55644Curt KistlerParticipant
Ditto Stuey and Ricky,
One way for everyone to go faster in Vegas every November is to get more experience on temp circuits.
I also feel bad for all of the effort some of us put into the GGP on a 3 year commitment to have it thrown out of the mix. With or without the CSC the GGP will happen again. The survey said it was the best race in the CSC 2006 season.
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