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Swap meets would be good. I like JB’s space as I know he wouldn’t charge us $500.00 for a booth to sell $500.00 worth of equipment to only come out with a loss of your used equipment and time.
At this point with karting in Colorado being a secrete sport a stand alone swap meet wouldn’t get the attention that I think we could by taging along with a section of booths at some auto parts swaps that I think have been being promoted anually allready. Even if we could show at a ski swap, we would be in front of people that need something to do in the summer. Plus them people are all ready used to $80.00 entry fees. 😉YIPEEE!!! I’ll fire up my dollar stretcher and see what I can do.
I do have room for a few other large sharpy sponsors.
I need an areana 9 tooth clutch or jack shaft still and a hundred bucks worth of silver rocket racing studs so I can screw up my newly sponsored $50.00 set of snow hog tires.Hay, this wont mess up my Government cheese income will it?
My Homeless Advisor (Michelle) says, send cash.“The next product is a Heads Up display that attaches to your helmet that will allow you to monitor all functions without looking down at your gauge”
Maybe I shouldn’t post my idea of the next best thing in tech sales?
But I would think some type of Teavo sport glasses would be a hot item in our fewture. Just think you could replay anything you have seen happening. You could reply what happened last night and find your keys, billfold, car and even see if she was really that pretty.
Install them on fellons instead of GPS ankle locks and probation officers could veiw whats up.Chuck D, I am sure we could allow you to race them briggs on nitro. but only if you buy all the motors you’ll need from me. 😛
If we wanted to make the most affordable class for racers it would be a OHV clone motor class. But like I have said before, what kart shop is going to cater to a racer that has no budget to spend to race?
Selling Cheep motors, used chassis’s and used tires at little to no profit sounds like the kind of bussiness I always seem to find.
Denver is ripe for this type of racing to be promoted, yet it will have to be a stand alone promotion with out the add of the rest of the family of karters all ready promoting their own version of fun.
Some families have stake and seafood at their gatherings and some families have hambugers and hotdogs. Nobody on a public forum can say which gathering would be more fun to attend.Drew wrote “If the CSC were to have a Briggs class, how many driver’s would make the commitment to race a majority of the series? “
lets see now, As a Briggs racer on a low budget I can enter 2 club races for every one race with the professionally run series with corperate sponsors CSC. So I can commit to half as many races with probably 1/2 half the turn out or go to twice the amount of races with more turn out. Humm which one has a better bang for the buck?
Some of us don’t mind porta-pottys and a T-shirt is our working uniform.
There is no free lunch, where do you want to eat?Dan and Greg, there are many faces wanting to be the vioce of the 2 stroke racers here in Colorado. I wouldn’t be looking towards them faces to represent the four stroke racer. You guys did well at keeping the class alive last year by doing what you had to do. Any program made up by the majority of the CSC will more than likely not fit the mold of a 4 stroke racer. If you think you can develope the four stroke club a step farther, the task is in your hands and in my opinion not in the hands of CSC. Maybe next year you can start the next most popular class of kart racing with races held at IMI,Bandimere,and CRE.
Hell, Craig and I started CSC then others took the idea and worked it.
The first CSC entry forum was handed out at CRE a year before the CSC as we know it now started. That same year I raced my four stroke motors in over 40 races at three tracks to get three track championships as no real stae championship was available then. The same year I also went to the IKF four stroke sprint championships and podiumed in three classes.
As an older four stroker comments from JB and others about us being behind the times and we need to change is an old statement, geographical driven, determind by what magazines you read, web sites you attend, and races you go to. You wont see a Rotax dealer promoteing their goods to 800 four strokers at the WKA nationals, just like you wont see Burris pushing their wares at the SKUSA Nationals.
Booth or should I say all the santioning bodies have trouble’s catering to their customers. Because we have so many faces demanding the most from their hobby they can get, around here anyway it seems we are always ahead of the thoughts of national orginizations trying to write the rules to play with. That can be good or bad depending on where you want to go with your racing.
Regarding your four stroke class, You guys are ahead of the times with the mixture of the WF mod and animal mods. No other org. runs the mixture so this is the only proving grounds for the mix. That is good for the ones that want to explore what works and doesn’t work, but it also limits participation of the racers that don’t want to explore this and would rather race with a some what of an even playing field and have there motor issues worked on by someone that isn’t even from around here. That’s where WKA’s written rules would add to the growth of the class.
All karter may be in the same family,yet I do tend to drink more when visiting my inlaws. :cheers:“As for all the generator pilots, If You Can’t Run With The Big Dogs Go Run The Lights On The Porch.”
Statements like that do more harm to karting than a podium full of gressy shirts and jeans.
Scott Smith, you might want to check on your porch light, as it is a little dim and being very proud isn’t going to make it brighter.I find it quite normal. SKUSA= Shifter Kart USA
It was no supprize to me either that when clutched briggs karts were asked to join SKUSA they didn’t. Why should they? I have never seen any past or fewture talk of a shifter sanctioning body supporting and promoting clutched briggs kart racing. Shure they wanted them to join in saying yes we will adapt any four stroke rules for our local rules. But then when we have our SKUSA national races there will be no Briggs classes.
Also I don’t think Gregs post was just his Rankings. It was a head count of racer participation.
Every one says we need to grow from the bottom up, but the up’s that are trying the hardest to make it grow don’t know where their bottoms at.The 1 cycle stealth stock GermanTech can’t be run in a indoor event with that many people.
The polar moments of the ozonater exhaust bearing mixing with hysteresis particals exspelled from the fans excretion of surprise causes perpetualmotion phenomenology acurrances of the Lodestone cases. :rotate:You could e-mail the web site and see. I really don’t think they do. Open classes in anything is pretty hard to have an arrive and drive. Plus there is a good chance it could get wrecked in an ice indoor race. Sprint karts were allowed last year. Levi did well with his. Contact them to see if they will allow them this year too. I think they just like the karts having the full body work as it shows better than our typical chessy pods. Gary does sell new speedway chassis’s too.
Heck for $3,000.00 you can rent my entire package and take what’s left home with ya.Rich posted the rules and cost in the 6th post.
Maybe some of the Colorado promoters of kart racing should take a good look at how Gary promotes this. I don’t know how he’s doing it, yet the event center I am shure cost a little more than IMI or Bandimere to rent for the night and they are still paying the racers back 100% of there entry which isn’t high to begin with. Then he will also have TV and paper adds to get the fans there to support the racers and the series. Then top it off with a nother event in MN. two days later with a nother in AZ 8 days later.
If any racers have the time he will even transport you and or your equipment to the other races.Just like in “real racing” even more so on the ice. Set up for corner speed is more important than motor.
The first year I used a limited moddified. Last year I used my suit case animal motor, booth with the same gear 11X83 with 34″ circumfrence tires and turned about 8,000 rpm’s. Booth years I also got beat by stock appearing flatheads drowning around the circle.
It took me two years to figure out that when I was going to full oposite lock coming out of the corners, my studs were hitting the right side nurf bar causing the front right to stop, which doesn’t work well at that moment.
So make sure your streering has full travel with the studs on.
With an 83 gear and 34″ tire the chain slides on the ice. A jack shaft set up is what I would prefure. The tires have drove me nuts. I wouldn’t use a soft tire as the screws don’t hold into them well and they become leakers even with buckets of slim and running them on the lathe for hours. They might work OK for the short amount of time on the track. The frames drag nice along the ice. I am going to check at walmart for snow blower tires “snow hogs” 13-500-6 I hear they have a 1″ thick tread that works well with the 5/8″ shaft screw we have to use. Pluss they are real cheap. I have talked with others that run them and it sounds better than my nightmere tires I run now. Sheet metal,1/2 wood slats, liner and dual tubes. If walmart doesn’t have them I will be ordering some from my wholesaler. But then I will either have to go to a 9 tooth areana clutch or a jack shaft with the larger roll out. Plus bend up the side nurfs and raise the speedway body.
It is a very quick race for every class that runs. No partice time, one heat,6-10 laps and a main. They will through the green no matter how lost you are in the line up.
The open rules do make it wide open to be very creative. The show is for the fans more than the racers, so even if I am beat again at least I was part of the show that is growing every year. Just because it says open doesn’t mean the biggest nitro breather is going to go any were. Heck i wanted to run nitro last year but EC convinced me to run gas and meth mix instead in my meth motor. The race is so short I don’t think you can blow the motor before it’s over. Knock on wooden tires, Now I hope I’m not the first to loose my hinge pins and dump my oil on the ice.
I still think my shifter would look good with a set of big snow hogs on it in the winter or summer. We should try to have TAG/shifter/4 stroke ice races at rainbow falls. Them 2 strokes like the cold.
Maybe “The Track” could go to Auzie style racing with a dirt road coarse and be ready sooner? :loony: 303-838-1941I hope to get up there for that event. I am still waiting on some results from my sponsership post in the 2006 racing post. This is the web site for it, yet the last time I checked, it wasn’t working. http://www.icespeedway.com
This will be the third year ICE has come to the event center. Nitro Bikes,quads and karts tearing up the hockey rink in front of 1000’s of fans. Get your sliver rocket ice screws ordered, screw up that old set of tires and come on out to play.
Rainbow falls also has orginized bike and quad races and will also let karts practice on their ponds too.Ya, with all these tag motors and lead talk. I have been waiting to see a motor come along that has a real big advantage and gets penilized with a bunch of lead. I would start the collection of money to buy AJ that motor to race with. That’s what TAG needs if your going to run a bunch a differnent motors it would be best if they had more known dispairity.
I see Jim. Yep it doesn’t hurt to try. In your test even the placement of the lead would yeild different results too. Then another next step would be to test a nother motor package and see if it has the same effects. That is after you have ran the first motor over it’s limit of distruction to see if that helps your lap times too. It does get very difficult to come up with a controlled test to try and equallize things that are used in a out of controll event like racing motors go threw.
I have accepted the fact the no two motors are a like. Just like no two drivers are a like. My point would be, why do we think we can make them all a like? Why do we need to mix a bunch of motor manufactures into one race?
