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Welcome to karting!! The pic looks great. You are in for some fun seat time. Don’t worry much about hurting your kart or motor, it will hurt you before you hurt it. Start making notes. The great thing about karting is after 25 years of making notes I am still learning to make my karts drive and handle well.
Sounds like your kart fits right into the S3 class which I would recommend you racing in next year. With a few practice runs you will be ready to go to kart racing 101 class. No better school than a race.
I hope the kart is in a warm place or the water is drained?
Find out which gears it has on it now and which ones you need for Bandimere and IMI. See what jets and needle position it’s at now and run down to one of the tracks and buy a rib protecter/tranny fuild/jets/gears/plugs/2 stroke oil and a little fuel. Be shure to hang around the shop and get your money’s worth of free B.S. it helps too.
Practice a few times firing it up on the stand, changing gears and rub it down from top to bottom, karts really like that. Get ready for a warm winters day practice run.
Red line is when it stops gowing faster and you shift to the next faster gear. I am a newby to shifters too, my redline is checked in all 6 gears and it never is enough. Try to forget what you payed for it and drive it like you stold it and run em down to the cords.Ok Tom, So you are wanting to race driver handycap style. I shure don’t want anything to do with that. That to me is just like taxing the rich to feed the poor, or setting a minimum wage to cure poverty. When I win, I win. I shure don’t wont the real winner karting around an extra lead weight so I have a chance to win.
“This Spring, If I can take the time, I will do the testing. Then, we can know how much to take off or put on to “level” the field.”
Jim please don’t take this the wrong way, but why would everyone beleave in your test?
Thats is why I posted:”The biggest problem I see is finding that one test or method that everyone would use to equalize the motors for differant tracks.”
I don’t see TAG doing real well untill there is one test, one rule book, with one main person or orginization in charge. Im not a TAG racer, so I have a limited amount of experiance with my opionons and questions. Jim are you in charge of the TAG orginization?Tom in your statements I think if you where to phraze the fast guy and the slow guy as the fast motor or the slow motor for different tracks you could get somewhere with weight adjustments. I think it would be tested better with only one fast guy. The more guys testing would only lead to weight equalization of driver/crew abilities. Sort of like a Bowling leage handy-cap.
I think Blinks approuch is correct too. The mixture of different motors with differences in power curves could also work towards evening the mix of fat TAG racers with them skinny guys.
The biggest problem I see is finding that one test or method that everyone would use to equalize the motors for differant tracks.
But then again I never thought there was such a thing as equalization of motors. Even when I built motors for the stock briggs only class
some were hot and some were not.Heck, pretty soon my race track will be frozen and ready to go. 😀
“Respectfully, anybody can go out and buy anything they choose, but to race in a club series or Rotax max or CSC you have rules to keep the competition somewhat even. The shifter ranks has turned into whoever got the most money gets to do whatever they want. I for one don’t want to see the Tag go that way.”
Rich, Go what way? Is there not rules in the shifter classes too?
I really don’t see any differances between TAG and Shifter racing. Booth classes have racers that would do, buy or try just about anything to win.
Sorry but it’s too late. Whoever got’s the most money can get whatever they want. 🙂 What, you don’t want the rich fast guys to race TAG? Heck in any class them rich fast guys are what provides us poor sort of fast guys our good used equipment.Controversy is fun, I hope they don’t get rid of it in my sport.
Rick, ya I got my stock Germantech motors in, wow I am turning laps faster than all ICC’s. Not bad, for just $12,000 I am getting faster laps while staying undetechable with their stealth stock disappearing money package. You want their number? :cheers:
Really, I guess I am in the poor class so I can comment about it.
It is nice not to have to get up to a buzzing alarm clock during the hibernation season up here. The sun coming up later and going down sooner helps out too. I did switch to a cheeper beer and cigarette’s.
Just not shure how long it will take for the wife to notice she’s only getting a days worth of labor out of my weeks worth of work.
I plan on going racing January 20th at the Loveland Budwiser event center if I get a chance to sneak $40.00 out of her purse so I get get rid of my old wooden tires and get a set of real snowblower tires.
I could use a sponcer. Provide your own stickers, $40.00 for my tires, $70.00 for ice studs and an eighteen pack of bud light and I’ll make the snow cones in front of 5,000 Motorsport/hockey fans.
I’ll be running my suit case motor again if it doesn’t blow a hinge.
Up here the Local Authorities just provide new tax plans to increase their salaries. Isn’t that what they do down there?Humm. Is Blink at a differant track? 15 teeth differance makes me think twice before asking for advice.
Rocketsled, The hobby of karting does take many forms. If you want to race karts agaianst other people locally you should get a look at what is being used as far as motors and rules.
I have seen just about every motor made bolted onto a go kart. But do take a good look at what you would end up with. A one off kart with no one to race against. Also I think the track record at IMI is with a 125 cc shifter. I have seen some pretty big contraptions go onto the race track and turn slower times than a race preped stock briggs.
The twin honda or cloan will weigh in around 100 pounds and a traditional single cylinder less than 50 pounds. The stock industrial motors you mention are designed for low rpm use. Plan on spending the price of the motor again to get them working in a wider power band with more power than the factory label. The animal mod class running at IMI starts out as a 5.5 HP industrial OHV. with a recommended 3800 rpm once they have been built for racing they turn 8000–9000 rpm’s and make about 16-20 HP
Keep in mind when racing a clutched kart with out gears to shift or even with gears to shift, the amount of rpm’s obtainable become rather important.
If you want a good kart racing motor with 2 cylinders check out the Bilands. I would bet the amount of money spent on an industrial motor would be the same as a Biland after you figure track time,modifications, maintinance and repair.
Of coarse thats not to say you couldn’t have some fun buying a clone motor, bolting on an old kart and race it around a track. Go to IMI or Bandimere and rent a honda and then the biland or leopard and see.I agree with Kyle about the shifter classes. I still disagree with mixing the motos and icc’s like was done in every shifter class last year.
If you don’t think it was a bad idea, just try mixing stock icc’s with the s-3 class and see what it does with that growing class.
I don’t really see a need for an age requirement that a Masters class ussually gets. With the limited numbers of shifter pilots a sort of a weight breakdown is more important. Even with that said, I don’t think there needs to be a break down to light, medium and heavy either.
I guess we will still have to have the name “Pro” or “Super Pro” or “Joe Pro” thing even though I really dought a single one of them made money racing last year. Maybe the three classes could be called: Pro, then over paid pro “heavy” and then poor pro “S-3” Or we could call them what they really are. Light, Heavy and stock.Rich, I don’t know yet. My one man construction and pit crew is progressing slowly. It’s hard to think about getting back in the seat. The labor I have to do to get there makes the awards of racing questionable.
Hay, anyone want to give a stab at marketing and R&D with a Cryogenic chamber? I would like to get it a home closer to Denver for more possible uses and easy Ln2 delivery. It is sad to have it sitting in my shop collecting dust.check on E-bay I saw a great deal on a collection of engineering stamps.
The other day it cost me 1350.00 to have two peaces of metal changed from 16 gage to 14 gage. Them stamps must be real heavy and hard to operate sence it coast so much to make them work.How funny, Chris what would be your socializtic veiw of Symphonic or Orchestra music players? Is there still allstate band competitions too?
I guess I must be one of the weird ones again. When I was in band I played booth kinds of music, country and western. Really, I wore all the hats Jazz/Symphony/Orchestra/Marching band/All State.
Do the winners go to the nationals still?
Have fun.
