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Thanks Stacey.
On the bumper, this is the way our rule reads…Rear Bumper: The Wide rear bumpers that protect rear wheels is highly recommended for this year, and will be required for next year. The wide bumpers must cover minimum of half of the tire, but may not extend past the edge of the tire.
which can be found here–> http://www.coloradosprintchampionship.com/minimaxrules.htmBrad, you are right, we were going to require it this year, but instead are following the RMax Challenge rules, which make it optional until the Grand Nationals. It will be required next year.
As for the numbers in the class… Don, you are right, 6 is the minimum. If we have less than that, consideration will be made, based on what other class it could be combined with.
Angie
There has been a little confusion on getting Dennis set up to answer your questions – be patient, we are working on it!
Angie
This was the initial set of rules that Greg provided. Work on something more official was stopped, so this may be it. Just to be clear, this class will not run unless we have 6 people sign up for memberships with the intention of running it.
Engines:
Briggs & Stratton Animal Modified
World Formula ModifiedFuel: Methanol
Weight: 350lbs.Note: ***All parts must be Briggs & Stratton Stock factory production parts. NO machining or alteration unless specified in these rules. If it is not in the rules, it MUST REMAIN STOCK***
FLYWHEEL: B&S part #555625 is the ONLY billet flywheel permitted. Any or no flywheel key allowed.
CARBURETOR: Any Tilletson HL series carb. Max throttle bore 1.005? / Max venturi .900?.
INTAKE: Any intake allowed.
AIR FILTER: Any filter allowed.
FUEL PUMP: Any pulse type pump allowed. Can be pulsed from intake or crankcase.
ROCKER ARMS: Must be stock as from the factory. Length?2.880?+/- .005?
LIFTERS: Billet allowed
HEADER: Any header allowed
CONNECTING ROD: ONLY Billet rods allowed. With or without inserts. Must be stock length.
PISTON AND RINGS: Any aftermarket piston and rings allowed. Three rings mandatory.
CRANKCASE SIDE COVER: Billet allowed.
CRANKSHAFT: ONLY stock factory crankshaft with stock timing gear allowed.
CAMSHAFT: Max. lift .310? Max duration at 0.050? 248 degrees. Max. duration at 0.200 – 153 degrees.
CYLINDER HEAD: Machining of gasket surface allowed.
VALVES: Stock valves ONLY. One angle.
VALVE SEATS: Stock seats ONLY. One angle
HEAD GASKET: Min. thickness .049?
VALVE SPRINGS: Any springs allowed.
DECK / PISTON CLEARANCE: Machining of deck surface allowed. Piston pop-up is non-tech.
CYLINDER BORE: .035? over max
BLOWER HOUSING: B&S part #555623 or #557034. Heavy flywheel cover ONLY.
THIRD BEARING SUPPORT / GIRDLE: allowed
ROCKER STUDS: can be girdled together. Stock studs ONLY..
CHASSIS: NO Cadet Chassis allowed.Just for the record. The CSC did not cancel the Briggs class. The sponsor for the class pulled out, and also many of the Briggs racers made it clear that they were not going to participate in the CSC. If six guys and/or gals send in their membership forms, then we will be more than happy to have a Briggs class. I did not post the rules and class details, because it seemed obvious that there were not going to be enough for a class, and I did not want someone showing up at the first race expecting there to be one. The CSC treated this class the same as all of the others, with all of the same benefits (except those two races), and all of the same requirements to be met. The decision was made to not give any exceptions on the spec tire – for many reason, the largest of which, it could void our agreement for getting kickback for SPEC tires. Sorry it came down to this, but we just can’t give special treatment to one class.
I don’t want to fight over this, it is silly… but Greg, don’t put this all on the CSC just because it didn’t give in.
Kyle, according to TAG USA rules, the YHC and the MG Yellow are comparable.
This was taken from the TAG USA rules…….5.0 Tire Specifications
5.1 55 Durometer hardness minimum unless otherwise specified. See table below for
tires meeting the hardness requirements.Manufacturer. . . . . Compound
Bridgestone. . . . . . .YHC
Dunlop. . . . . . . . . .SL 4
Maxxis. . . . . . . . . .HG(HT) 3
Burris. . . . . . . . . . .M 30
MG. . . . . . . . . . . . .Yellow
Vega. . . . . . . . . . . RedJay,
I know the answer to this because Rusty and I just talked about it today.
It will be a 78 for IMI’s first club race on April 3. It will stay 78 for the CSC races, too, unless the information from the IMI event shows us we need something different.Angie
The decision to split the Comers and the Animals came before the decision to go with SKUSA. It was clear from last year that it would be next to impossible to make the Comer 80 competitive with the Animal – of course we were trying to speed the Comers up, not slow the Animals down. Since we split them, the Comers have to be run as they do at Stars, that only makes sense. Maybe we should have slowed the Animals down to match the Comer 80s… but if that is the case then why not just go with a Comer, as then you can race nationally. Many made that choice, anyway.
Yes, the Gazelle would have been a good choice. I think it is easy to say that we should have just went with the SKUSA classes down the line, offering the K80, and the Cadet TAG with the Gazelle and EasyKart 60. The reality is this is a transition year, trying to merge what we were doing with where we want to be doing in the future. I have a hard time believing that everyone would have run out an bought a Gazelle without complaint – my guess is that the Comer 80 class would be even larger. And even so, the Gazelle is a Cadet TAG, not a Junior 1, so you would still have 2 classes running together – just the speeds would probably not be an issue, as the Comer 80 and Gazelle are more compatible.
If there are that many happy Animal owners, then that class would hang around. Obviously the opportunity to switch to the Comer class was appealing to many. You just can’t please everyone, and the time to set the classes is past. Do you Animal drivers/parents that are left want to be slowed down, so that at least you could run on the track with the Comer 80s? I don’t think there is a way to, at this point, try to equalize the Animal to the Comer 80’s level so that they could be scored together. If you want the Junior 1 to be a one engine class – well it looks like it worked out for the Comer 80.
As for how many for a class… I think that number is 6, especially if it looks like its own track time. If there were, say 4, we would have to see how to safely run them with the Mini Max, or slow them down and run with the Comers. Unfortunately, you can’t have 4 karts in a class that need the track to themselves. I thought I did answer the refund issue, maybe in another thread. Send in your registrations, I can hold the SKUSA part until we know whether or not the class will fly. If not, I send the money back to you – If we have enough, then I send in the SKUSA forms. At least we can know ahead of time the numbers that we are going to have.
angie
Don,
that is $20 fee to race an event as a non member, unless that is at your home club track. The limit is 2 and there will be no points given. I have put the rules over on the CSC site, toothanks,
AngieDennis, we are looking into this now. You say Rotax is 93 at 50:1, but TAG USA says 98 octane for all, castor oil, at manufacturer spec. Whether we spec the exact fuel and oil and ratio for the class and/or participant; or if we just say that TAGs can run 93 or 98 with RS7 or RC3, having only to declare what you are running, including ratio. Either way we will be able to successfully tech the fuel. We just have to look at the rules and make sure we satisfy the TAG USA agreement. Since the RMax Challenge specs a different fuel, I sure hope we will be able to allow for that. This will be settled sooner not later. We aren’t going to leave anything to argue about at the first race!
Thanks for the input.angie
Mike, If you know people that are going to race – please help them get the forms to join! I am adding names to “the list” when people send in their membership forms – not as they request to be added. So, this is official numbers, for now. I am sure that we are going to have many wanting to wait until the first event, but it is going to hurt the CSC by doing so. As Tom mentioned, we are going to have to prebuy our fuel – and make sure that we have enough. Big T needs two weeks, so that means not only should we be getting memberships… but very soon there will be an entry form for the first event.
Tom, you are right… we are working on the actual process for fuel distribution. It will be done soon, and then we will fill you in. Just know that we are working to streamline it, and make it as easy as possible on the racers. And on the fuel, you should be prepared to start off with a new, clean fuel jug to avoid any possible chance of contamination.
angie
Thanks Don. Your information for Big T is correct.
I think you may be in for a shock, though. The price of fuel has gone up! I am going to get the numbers and post here, but it has gone up. Also, just so everyone knows, your price from us for the race events is the same as if you walk in to Big T and buy it. Details of how the fuel will be handled will also be posted soon. I do know that with the tech we are going to be doing, everyone should plan on starting with a new, clean gas can to be on the safe side as far as contamination goes.
Angie
