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Good morning everyone,
I think that a race in Greeley would be a proliffic event for Colorado Karting, regardless of it being points or non-points. The thing that makes me upset at the situation is that since its announcement at the banquet, there has been NO information in regards to the event, or any addressing questions to the core group of racers that would attend this event. The problem with that is that it is already January, and most the racers are making plans, if Greeley is not announced untill last minnute, then there really is a smaller chance for a successfull event. Many of you have not been to the Rock Island Grand Prix, and for those who have, I am of the belief you will agree with me saying that there will be REAL spectators. Although a forgetfull weekend for me, the thing that was most memorable about this event was that there were the real spectators (novel concept isn’t it??) that have been tailgating, spectating, and attending the RIGP since 1994!!!!! These people clap to the racers who crashed being dragged back on a wrecker (remember these are karts we are talking about), they gave beer from their own coolers to the crashed racers over the fence, they were cheering at passes and action, needless to say this was and is as far as I am aware the only place in the NATION where this happens. Greeley has this opportunity, but I fear that it will be put to waste, and seemingly it has, considering no one has heard a word from any official involved with this race. If this race is to be a non points race, then we have to provide ourselves as model ambassadors to the sport, run large classes, but only a HANDFULL of classes (another novel concept), and offer low entry fee, stable rules, and good prizes for the racers attending.
That is my rant, belive it or not, that is up to you, but consider that we could piss this opportunity away, that actually could grow the sport, which is in need.
P.S. This would have to be a street race (not parking lot) to attract national racers from abroad Colorado, few would come to a parking lot race, there are already enough for racers to attend in their various homes.
MarcOn behalf of Marc, and unofficially on behalf of RBI, I am hoping that the “powers that be” consider a reschedule of the two IMI dates that conflict with the Stars schedule. That schedule was posted some time ago and I would have hoped that, to the degree possible, there would have been an effort to schedule around the Stars schedule. We are four months from the April weekend that has IMI and Stars, Tucson and eight months away from the August weekend that has IMI and Stars, Sonoma. Moving the April race back to an earlier weekend in April (I recognize that Jim wants the 15th for his Gorilla race), or a later weekend in April, shouldn’t be too difficult this far from those dates and the same is even more true for the August dates(Aug. 6th, 13th or 27th would work).
In every year of CSC’s existence there has been the effort to accomodate the schedules so as not to conflict with the National events so as to afford the opportunity to any Colorado racer if he/she desires, to race nationally. In fact, in years past, the CSC schedule has had to wait on Stars and SKUSA; this year it was not so difficult since SKUSA has no national series and Stars announced almost a month and a half ago. This compromise by CSC has not, to the best of my knowledge, hurt any driver here in Colorado and has allowed many here to try the competition on a national level. By the way Jim, Levi Roberts could have run CSC if he had so desired as no direct scheduling conflicts existed, thanks to CSC.
There are a number of drivers impacted by this decision to “NOT” consider the Stars schedule. Some have already spoken, some are mentioned implicitly in Doug’s posts and there are others that I know of who want to do both CSC and Stars. If there are some horrific scheduling issues that make accomodation impossible let me know and I’ll understand. Otherwise, what is the problem picking a couple of different dates for the IMI races, assuming that Brad can accomodate, that are close to the dates just announced. Aside from the drivers, at least for the RBI team, there is the desire to attend each CSC race to support all of it’s customers which becomes impossible if the team itself is in another state.
We all know the many issues facing this sport and I think we all know how important it is to be inclusive rather than exclusive. I remain hopeful that some compromise can be reached here as to these dates so many months away. It would seem to me, with nothing seemingly cast in stone in terms of the announced dates, that compromises can be reached that allow all Colorado karters to race the CSC and compete nationally if they so desire. I remember last year some posts as to why CSC should accomodate the national schedules and Stacey’s responce to the effect of let’s allow our racers the opportunity to go out and compete on a national level if they want. That’s the same attitude we need now.
Chuck Elliott
Damnit!!! What did I say about getting along!!!!!!! Drew has sacrificed a TON in this sport, the man busts mega ass out at AK WORKING with rental karts, likely bringing in plenty of new blood, also, he takes enormous strides to make sure the spectators are informed, and quite frequently he is answering mundane questions from outsiders most people would shine away from. Some of you guys of the briggs clan are not doing anything positive to boost and boast the sport, instead of trying to solve the problem, it seems that you guys would rather attack those who make the race day run. The CSC is a playground for FUN, try to make it so, and work out all of the differentials that seem to be holding you guys back from enjoying what really is a great place to race.
anybody wanting to continue this further call me any time at 3@3 8@7 3975 (the @ are zeros intentionally).
Mike J, time to add your famous quote “Can’t we all just…..”Get along damnit!!! We are all the same familly, lets coexist here, instead of bantering of problems, lets all find some solutions to these issues and make this a beter place to race.
Who says anyone from Skusa is designing the track.
And BTW, yes I do believe that this event will not have what events in the past have had, (I.E. Rio 03) and the others I was not attending.Do not get too angry Doug, I happen to know who is designing it, and it is being designed by quite capable hands, so need to worry.
FINALLY!!! COMMON SENSE
In all reality, what Jim has here is the way to go. We can make Superpro competitive for both types of powerplants with weight. We can make the tag and stock moto classes controlled for cost purposes, like a harder tire compound (at the RIGP they forced all practice sessions after qualifying to run their RACE tires, we could do something simillar). If everyone uses common sense, I think we can see the numbers we saw in 04, 15-15 super pro, 15-25 tag sr, master, etc.Mid 52’s are more then achievable in a stock moto, done it before in the winter, I would not be surprised to see lower times when faster drivers get into the class, like greg, doug s, etc.
