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  • #51472
    Doug Welch
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    I hate to disapoint you guys but we are doing nothing on the carb. We are running stock tubes (what ever came from Rotax) and needles (K27). WE have gone to a bit larger pilots, 35/35 and other than that, I go off the Max Jet software for main and needle postion with no compensation. Gearing is 13/77 or 76 depending on which way we go. The engine is as purchased from SSC.

    I do have one carb with the ICC style slide using stock internals but have not tried it at IMI yet.

    The reason Greg is fast is because he has almost 9 years of experience running around IMI including class championship trophies and has traveled to over 20 different tracks around the country. He works at a kart track (Action Karting) and drives a kart almost every day. He also has had the good fortune to work with one of the best driver coachs around for more than two years, the same man who worked with Scott and Alex Speed when they were young.

    I’ve been setting up karts for just as long and have tested just about every componet many times under all types of conditions at tracks from Florida to Oregon to Toronto to southern California.

    The motor is good for about 10% of the total, chassis 30%, driver 60%.

    We will work with anyone to help make them faster. But if they want to concentrate on the motor, I won’t waste my time.

    #51473
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Doug,
    Don’t take Brad too personal, he’s just bent that the Biland hasn’t dominated like he predicted it would 3 to 4 years ago. I was kicking the Bilands ass on it’s home track back in ’02 and he is still sore. Don’t get me wrong, I still think the Rotax is the motor to have at IMI – if you take the same driver, same testing and setup, that same driver will be faster on a rotax in my opinion at IMI….with that said, the Rotax sucks at the rest of the CSC tracks except GJMS….at GJMS it is only competitive. Brad’s goal I’m sure is to get the Biland competitive so he can sell more motors….period.

    #51474
    Curt Kistler
    Participant

    Does Blink still sell Bilands?

    #51475
    Marc Elliott
    Participant

    Dennis, I think Brad still sells Bilands, but RBI is the importer since winter.

    #51476
    Tom Dennin
    Participant

    Actually Dennis, the Rotax is only at a slight disadvantage at Bandimere that is if you have a competent driver and a good chassis setup. So for the seven CSC races the Rotax competes in, it is only at a slight disadvatage at two races or 28.5% of the races. In other words, the Rotax is equal to or has an advantage 71.5% of the races. When you look at it logically the Rotax does not suck at Grand Junction, IMI, or Steamboat. What may be lacking is the chassis setup or the drivers ability but the power plant is up to par.

    Just food for thought,

    Tom

    #51477
    Brad Linkus
    Participant

    I still sell the Biland, Leopard and Rotax Tag engines.

    #51478
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    OK, I was asked to layoff Brad so I will but the fact still remains that the Rotax dominates IMI, runs real well at GJMS and is a dog at Bandi and Steamboat – that makes it bad at 3 of the 7 races, decent at 2 of the 7 and great at 2 of the 7 – not real sure how you would do the math but I’m sure somebody can come up with some fuzzy math to say that the rotax is either great or poor depending on their perspective.

    Here’s the bottom line: If you take a great driver, a great chassis setup and a mediocre engine you should win the majority of the races. If you take a great driver, a great setup and a great motor you should win more races. If you take a decent driver, a decent setup and a decent motor you will be competitive. If you take a decent driver, a decent setup and a poor motor (ie rotax at bandi) you will get poor results everytime. My point is a little vague so I apologize. I guess my point is that everything is never equal in karting or racing in general…you will always have one variable that makes a racer better (ie motor, chassis setup of driver) the difficult part about Tag is that it tries to level the playing field by manipulating one variable (motor). This is an impossible task and needs to be scrapped as soon as possible. Use my suggestion from earlier and add weight to the top 5 after each race (track specific only). Doug has the most logical argument, and that is to practice more. Not sure if any of you watched ‘Pinks’ tonight, but Ron White and Memo Gidley raced head to head in order to take on a “stock broker”, well that stock broker turned out to be a decent shifter pilot but still lost to Ron – why? Because Ron is a better driver! They had the same 125cc shifter motors, one was on a GP chassis and one was on a CRG – there really wasn’t any setup to the chassis (they only had to make 1 turn) and I believe they both had identical italian motors. You took 2 of the 3 variables out and driving won. I think I’m done rambling and in this there is a point. Good luck finding it.

    Angie – I can’t figure out how to update my information, help!

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