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Mitch,
You got some great photo’s but you’re going to get some drivers in trouble who don’t have permission to use that curb!!!
Rick
Hey guys,
Am I screwing up just buying the next engine in line? We did not pick through motors to find the best one or take it apart to extract the most out of it. Is that what it is going to take to run up front in the State or Rotax series?
Our Icc motors were from Swedetech and were tweaked to knifes edge to be competitive. (at a very significant cost, a cost that chased a lot of racers away from the Icc packages and some out of karting all together) I was hoping to be able to be competitve on a box stock Rotax motor but it looks like some tweaking may be essential to be up front. The 1st Rotax that we ran for 3 years and last years Motori both were taken out of the box, broken in and put into service.
Last season we joined a Race Team (not a shop) that put a lot of effort into chassis and driver development and the Team culture of sharing information. We were at every race 1-2 days prior to the event trying different tuning combinations with carb and chassis, analyzing data and getting our drivers laps on that circuit. I watched Vince Mandarino tuning Lorenzo’s carb and it changed the way I look at tuning. We had drivers meetings, we compared segment performance and raised our Teams game. Yet it was the motor. It was considered too fast and went the opposite of what Tag Usa offered for our particular package. I really don’t understand. I see a lot of very highly regarded industry people state it’s much more chassis and driver than motor. Yet builders are pulling every last drop out of spec motors to get an edge. And our motori had an unfair advantage? Is it driver or motor? Several of the races Roman did well in last year, we did not set fast race lap but our chassis stayed consistent for 20 laps, Roman ran 2 classes and got twice the race day seat time and we got hundreds of laps (in many cases) before the event as I mentioned above.
I’m over the Motori thing. It is a losing battle. It’s the motor thats fast, not our program.
But.
Last weekend we had a very good tune up on our motor / chassis (a frayed throttle cable that would not allow a full return to idle but nothing significant) and we qualified 5th about 2.5 seconds off pole? Ronnie had a great effort and I’m proud of him. He is a hero to me. At that pace he could have lapped p-2 by the end of the 20 lap race! If our Motori would have been 2.36 seconds faster than the #2 qualifier? And capable to lap p-2 by the end of a 20 lap race. Then what?
Pos No.
Name Best Tm In Lap Best Spd (Km/h) Diff Gap Laps1 47 Ron Reed 46.412 6 48.867 6 –
2 84 J Mark Krivanek 48.781 7 46.494 2.369 2.369 11 –
3 17 Mike Price 48.807 5 46.469 2.395 0.026 10 –
4 7 Gunter DeSanti 48.845 9 46.433 2.433 0.038 11 –
5 7x Roman Gutierrez 49.071 3 46.219 2.659 0.226 4 –
6 141 Tom Dennin 49.215 5 46.084 2.803 0.144 11 –
7 3 Rick Samu 49.731 11 45.605 3.319 0.516 11 –
8 9 Charles Gordon 50.024 4 45.338 3.612 0.293 8 –
9 3 Troy Howell 50.578 4 44.842 4.166 0.554 10 –
10 9 Louie Valasquez 50.852 6 44.600 4.440 0.274 10 –
11 4 Mike Jansen 51.637 4 43.922 5.225 0.785 4 –
12 117 Don Wright 1:01.024 2 37.166 14.612 9.387 2 –p-2 thru p-7 were within 1 second. Pole to p-7 was 3.31 sec!
Seems like we need to keep the Colorado racing series respectable. Everyone seems to have their own agenda and I don’t want to have a National engine builder build my spec motors to the nats a$$ to be competitive.
In the Rotax series. I doubt the california boys brought their highest level motors to size us up. Is everyone showing up with massaged motors? Is Roman going to be the only stock motor (provided we qualify of course) I’m starting to feel like were bringing a knife to a gun fight. Do these motors really have an advantage? Are we wasting time and money to think we can compete?
We love the people we race with, we love the competition, I love the fact that I can provide my son with a wholesome sport to learn about competition but I should have just kept the shifter with 2 built Icc motors and gone out and had fun with the boys.
I don’t want to get into this whole bashing deal but this is getting a little too crazy.
Doug,
From the looks of this photo of him, he’s about 85% out of the closet. Or at least part of him is!
edupin Posted:
I am starting to regret the fact that I’ve sent you the link for the program to create AVATARS….
Sorry Everyone I did not expect for Mike to go WILD with it!
I am glad he has not found a way to connect his web cam to the Avatar interface otherwise we could be in some serious trouble.
Eduardo,
I’m holding you personally responsible for this whole thing!
Kirk_Deason Posted:
Jansen, your new small(er) head makes your ass look big. You better keep working out.
That’s Jansens new Motori Butt! He added 20 lbs to polar moment going along with the Tag Usa changes this year. Hows that working out for you Mikey?
Kirk,
Jansen had been bragging about his work out regimine and how big his… I thought he said guns, but now it’s obvious he said buns. Looks like someones been juicing the old roids!Mike Jansen Posted:
Gentlemen:I was watching Ahnuld in “Pumping Iron” and the way he mentally abused his competition for the Olympia contest in South Africa. It gave me an idea…
I figured if I got a new Avatar the week before each and every CSC race it would be worth .5 – .7 seconds a lap. I figured this is my new edge…
“Do you feel lucky?” Well do you fellow karter?Mikey, Mikey, Mikey,
We’re still going to kick you a$$. It’s just going to take a little longer with all that a$$ to kick. Please don’t take your driving suit off while watching the watching the last 15 laps from the infield. Your super absorbent under garmants are going to be a distraction if you do.
Mike Jansen Posted:
Names of previous winners in direct drive/TaG/ICA:
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonnen
Michael Schumacher
Ayrton Senna
Alan Prost
Lewis Hamilton
Vitantonio LuizziAll these guys drove Tags Mikey? What does the acronym T-a-g signify?
Mike Jansen Posted:
The Prosecution rests your honour….
Alright Kirk,
The spec is identical except the weight of the superior “Super Icc” class is lower.
This is for tiny little Euro drivers? And a few hand picked “Hard Kart / Dominator pilots” with skinny little bums like yours.
Performance difference due to weight.
Kirk_Deason
PostPosted: Thu 04 26, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject:
Since we’re on the subject of those wacky Euro types, will one of you smart guys please explain the difference between ICC and Super ICCWhy yes Kirk,
One has a Super in front of it! Seems obvious to me, but the layman may not pick up on it. Please hold the applause!
Smart Guy
We may intentionally split the seat, drill stop (like Dane said) then lay a small 3/4″ x 2″ fiberglass patch at the drill stop to prevent further growth.
I have all the materials in my trailer to do this. No sense in purchasing anything for the amount you need, Polyester boy.
Sorry, can’t seem to get over it.
Rick
