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Larry,
I know you want advice from the experts, which I am not…. but looking at the results on ekarting, I notice many Woltjer engines listed near the top. We have used Woltjer for our shifter engines, and would recommend them, for sure.http://www.woltjerengines.com/
Good Luck!
Angie
Thanks Angie. I see that they have a Parilla ICA motor. I’ll give them a call today. Does anyone know what the difference is between an ICA and a JICA motor?
The senior motors blow up faster 😆
Realize that they spin these things to ungodly revs like an F1 engine and need rebuilds pretty much the same; get two if you’re going to do it…@Mike Jansen wrote:
The senior motors blow up faster 😆
Realize that they spin these things to ungodly revs like an F1 engine and need rebuilds pretty much the same; get two if you’re going to do it…Or 3…..I remember when I did a couple STARS events guys had 2 motors in the seat in Parc Ferme along with the one on the chassis.
But those 100cc at 20,000rpm are niiice. I liiike.
JICA are air cooled and ICA’s are watercooled BTW Larry. I’ve always wanted to have my ass handed to me by David Fore and Giacomo Patrono in that class :cheers:
You probably want to have 3 engines in the trailer or access from the engine builder that you get your from.
Tip #1. Do not attempt to race JICA without a reputable builder tunung your engine. You will get smoked with box stock.
Tip #2. Have someone setup your carb adjustments on the stand for JICA before he goes out and do not have him adjusting on track. You can get away with this after lot’s of practice.
Tip #3. Talk to the importer of your chassis line and ask them whose JICA engines they run. See if they do stars west and rent a spot under their tent for the first race or 2 until you get comfortable with the class. If they do not offer tent space ask about trackside support at the west races.
If the team you run with has spare motors for lease you might want to start there. This way, if you shell an engine you can lease another from them for the remainder of the weekend.
Getting into ICA and JICA alone is a huge learning curve. I suggest that if your importer of your chassis does not do stars west then contact Tony Ventresca about an arrive and drive. They have been producing JICA champions for years and know the ins and outs of the engine.Hope this helps
Larry, I have been running Stars for three years now, and if you would like to hear my observations and suggestions, please call me at 303 330 2795 anytime, I will share what I have learned with you as a driver on a learning curve, and as an observer.
Back in Colorado in 2 weeks! From there who knows where i am going….Thanks all. I?ve learned a lot in the last 24 hours.
Last year we had a ton of fun and learned a lot running the Florida Winter Tour. We were humbled by the speed and preparation that teams showed up with as well as the number of entries in each class. We would love to get more of that kind of experience and race some really big events closer to home. However, after a little inquiry into Stars, I find it difficult to justify buying a couple of 20K rpm grenades, oh, I mean engines 😆 , to race three weekends of Stars. I?ve also found there will be a whole new set of rules for 2008 and beyond so the current engines may not be any good after this year.
I will inquire about the engine lease or tent space options but I?m inclined to stick with Rotax and Tag for the rest of this year. We?ve run five races already (3 wins) this year and have 23 more on our schedule without the Stars events.
From what I?ve found, I do have to ask why an organization would run races that require such expensive and unreliable motors that aren?t usable anywhere else. I see that Stars does have one spec (Tag) class but that is only for seniors.
The irony to me is that when we were at the Florida Winter Tour in 2006 there were more entries in the Rotax classes than the ICA and JICA classes. The racing in the Rotax classes was closer and the lap times were very close to that of the more expensive motors. Someone help me understand why ICA and JICA exist? Is there something about these motors that are better than TaG?
At least we have the Rotax Nationals here in August!
I’ll give you a call Marc.
Larry,
That’s what they race in Europe. Pure racing over there is the direct drive and not pulling gears…
Since we’re on the subject of those wacky Euro types, will one of you smart guys please explain the difference between ICC and Super ICC (newly coined KZ2 and KZ1 classes)? I think one requires a higher class CIK/FIA license, right? but is there a performance difference between the ICC and Super ICC?
Kirk_Deason
PostPosted: Thu 04 26, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject:
Since we’re on the subject of those wacky Euro types, will one of you smart guys please explain the difference between ICC and Super ICCWhy yes Kirk,
One has a Super in front of it! Seems obvious to me, but the layman may not pick up on it. Please hold the applause!
Smart Guy
Alright Kirk,
The spec is identical except the weight of the superior “Super Icc” class is lower.
This is for tiny little Euro drivers? And a few hand picked “Hard Kart / Dominator pilots” with skinny little bums like yours.
Performance difference due to weight.
I think to race Super ICC you have to be listed as one of the factory drivers for a factory race team. And the team has to pay the CIK alot of money to do this. At least thats how it was in the old days anyway.
@Rick Schmidt wrote:
Tell the Super Icc guys that Mikey!
Names of previous winners in direct drive/TaG/ICA:
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonnen
Michael Schumacher
Ayrton Senna
Alan Prost
Lewis Hamilton
Vitantonio LuizziNames of Previous winners in ICC or shifter classes:
Scott SpeedThe Prosecution rests your honour…. 8)
Mike Jansen Posted:
Names of previous winners in direct drive/TaG/ICA:
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonnen
Michael Schumacher
Ayrton Senna
Alan Prost
Lewis Hamilton
Vitantonio LuizziAll these guys drove Tags Mikey? What does the acronym T-a-g signify?
Mike Jansen Posted:
The Prosecution rests your honour….
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