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Doug Welch
ParticipantThe only part of Joe I saw in Moran was his back side as he was always running in the other direction????? :idn:
Hey guys, don’t the national boys scare ya. Yes they are fast but you can learn so much from them even if it is ony for the one corner you saw them before they disapeared. 😀 iSKUSA is trying to make this race very local friendly and I urge any one who is wondering what its like to play with some other guys to come and check it out.
Doug Welch
ParticipantEntry forms and tire order forms are avaiable on the SKUSA web site at http://www.skusaonline.com You should plan on entering 7 days in advance. You can fax over your entry so you do not need to get it done right now. I would wait until SKUSA makes the offical annoucement on the entry fee and tires to avoid confusion.
Doug Welch
ParticipantChuck
Good to see your still out there. I think most guys from around here will be getting ready for the CSC event the following weekend at GJ and also the PMT the weekend after that. This is no BS, we expect to have somewhere between 160 to 175 racers for the CSC event in Grand Junction. The CSC event this spring in GJ will be the biggest event held in Colorado in the 8 years we have been racing! Look for the IMI event to be just as big, if not bigger. Stacey is about ready to announce the purse but he assured me it will be at least equal to last year.
I think most are looking at it like we are, why travel 1700 miles to race when we can travel 200 miles to a track that, in our opinion, is better than just about any track in the USA and the talent level we have here is about as good as it gets.
Be it ever so humble, there’s no place like home!
Doug Welch
Participant@Dennis Garwood wrote:
The first being 125 Novice (8 entries) and 125 Fat boys (10 entries). The next is to run Junior 1 and Junior 2 together. Again, the fields aren’t very big and they run close to the same lap times. Somebody is going to have back markers, but it really makes no sense to put different types of classes together and different age groups together.
Novice 125 and senior/heavy 125 did run together. In terms of lap times, the junior 2 kids were closer to 4 cycle senior than junior 1 (Which I find odd but I have the final laps times in front of me!) Junior 1 had 16 racers and a lap time spread (fast to slow) of 9 seconds per lap. We should add the junior 2 to them? There were only 4 junior 2 racers. We can not put them out by themselves, it adds too much time to an already cramped schedule. Who do we put them with? Where would you put them? If the 4 cycle senior drivers can practice on the track with juniors and not hit them, why can’t they race with them?
By the way, the shifter classes were short changed in the finals. All our races were shortened to 15 laps. The 4 cycle senior class got more laps than anyone. The day is already too long when you have to cut laps from some of your largest classes! We should have cut the laps from the smaller claases so that the bulk of the racers got what they paid for.
The two largest classes are the Pro 125 and the Junior 1, both with 16 entries.
In the finals We had a total of:
46 shifters
41 Tag
42 4 cycle junior and clutch, of which 30 were in junior 1 and kid karts.Doug Welch
Participant@Greg Johnson wrote:
Modified class that you axed!
I didn’t axe your class, a class where only one ot two shows up is not a class. There were four people involved in making those decisions and I was one of the four. It was a unaniumous decision amougst 4 of us to create a single adult 4 cycle class for there were barely enough drivers for one class, let alone two.
Any class that does not meet the mininum number of drivers will be eliminated. We are not going to have classes just to hand out trophies. Right now, the S2 class is on the choping block. It had zero entries at Bandimere. If we don’t get some at the next event, its gone.
Doug Welch
ParticipantGreg and Doug
Neither of you has intreperted what I said correctly. So I try to write it so that hopefully you understand. If the driver had done the same thing to an adult, he should have gotten a rolled black flag. The track response to that action was correct. The ages of the drivers has nothing to do with it. A faster kart punted a lapper out of the way, period. That action deserves a rolled black flag, period. Is it your contention that it is ok to punt lappers out of your way? If it is, I strongly suggest you find another series to run. Lapped traffic is a part of racing and it is the overtaking drivers responsibility to pass safely.
I do not have any thing to do with which classes run together. Every aspect of the operation of the race is entirely up to the track owner. If you don’t what kids running with adults, talk to the track owner, not me! I have made no comments in any of these posts regarding the suitability of putting kids out with adults. Please take the time to read what I have said carefully and do not use you bias to interpreate what I have said. I have always typed exactly what I want to say. But let me put in bullets so there is not misunderstanding.
1. Punting lappers is wrong in every instance and deserves a black flag. The ages and class of the drivers is irrealivent. You don’t punt lappers!
2.. I have nothing to do with the actual operation of the race and all concerns to the operation, tech and safety of the track should be directed to the track owner who is in complete control of all aspects of race operation.
3. I have never said anything in person or in my posts about which classes can or should run together and I have never stated anything publicly about running junior 2 with 4 cycle senior.
[/b]Doug Welch
ParticipantThe gentleman deserved the rolled blag flag regardless of the age of the other driver. He was impatient in passing the lapper and showed poor judgment. The black flag was the appropreate response. Lappers are a part of racing and it is the leaders responsibility to find a safe way around them. When they punt them out of the way, it is NOT the lappers fault.
Doug Welch
ParticipantI am begining to think that for the kid kart class, we should stop handing out first place trophies and give every kid the same trophy. We would not track points so there would be no season championship to win. How about that? It is done this way in many parts of the conutry.
Doug Welch
ParticipantOctober 17
Doug Welch
ParticipantJoe
We will allow the full body work. But it’s not as much an advatage as you might think. When we ran Junior Briggs, we ran full body work. We could draft by just about any one. However, if the kid knew how to draft, they would tuck in behind us and we could not shake them. In fact, we would just suck them right up and off the kids would go. There were four boys who hooked up every race and it was a drafting clinic. One kid didn’t even run the CIK nose but he was always in the draft.
Doug Welch
ParticipantWhile I am not saying that cheating doesn’t go on, far less of it goes on than most people think. Some of the fastest kids, particularly in the kid kart just flat know how to drive them and the Dads know how to tune them. Those of us who have raced more than a few years know this.
Like all low hp karts, kid karts benifit greatly from a driver who is gentle at turn in and who never lifts, never uses the brakes. If the driver does, he/she will loss a bunch of time and what appears to be a fast motor is actually a fast driver.
A perfect example of that was the kid who drove Chaz’s kart in Tag senior. Was he cheating, hardly. But yet he was way faster than any one in the class. Why, simple, he knew how to drive and set up his kart. With kid karts, the differences is even more pronounced. Those little engines need a full lap or more to get fully spooled up. Some kids can never get them spooled up for they never build the necessary momentum.
Watch how the kid sits in the kart during a turn. If they are leaning in, they are forcing the inside rear tire down and thereby binding the kart and losing power and speed. The kid who is sitting straight up or leaning out in the turns, is keeping his /her kart free up on 3 wheels and is much faster.
Brad, just because a Dad doesn’t let you tech his karts doesn’t mean he’s cheating. They could want to get home and don’t feel like waiting. For many of us, its competiting that means something. Trophies are just not important to many of us. If it was late and I needed to get my kids home, I would tell you to go ahead and dq us. Why do you think I quit racing Briggs. Getting torn down every week got old and getting home at 10:00 or later because of tech just took all the fun out of it. Just for the record, we did get dq’ed in Briggs tech once. We had Tru-Arc snap rings for piston retainers instead of the stock items. After that, I said enough of this BS and we went shifters. Never looked back.
Doug Welch
ParticipantBill is correct, that is where they are saying to put it. In Jax, SKUSA told us to put it 12″ behind the centerline of the front axle on the pods but with the new body work, 12″ is square on the centerline of the nerf bar! So they modified it to 10″ and it worked great.
Some of the new body work doesn’t have a good place to mount it on the side pod so that is why Stars is looking at doing it on the back of the seat. But that is causing some problems for depending on the installation of the seat, both the cross bar and the water pump are screwing up the signal! Many if not most new karts are now coming with the Unico style body work and there are no problems mounting the transponder on them. The back of the seat is almost impossible to get to with the pipe and all that stuff they have back there. Putting it on the back of the seat is not a good idea IMHO.
Doug Welch
ParticipantChaz is just jazzed that “his” kart actually was capable! We always knew it wasn’t the kart!!!
Doug Welch
ParticipantThe rain is through, the skies are clear and tomorrow will be mostly sunny and in the 60’s. Many, many racers are already at the track and it looks like the first CSC race of the season will be a barnburner. See ya’all there!
Doug Welch
ParticipantIt is very hard to remove the first bearing with out damage if the press fit is very tight. The only way to get the frist one out is to take a punch and from the opposite side, tap against the inner race to knock it out. The second bearing is much easier now that one bearing is out of the way and you can get an arbor on it to press it out.
I would not remove them unless you were intending to replace them. The best way to install the new ones is with an arbor press and an arbor.
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