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@Spencer wrote:
Where is the optimum placement for the transponder clip? Mine was placed at the very front of the left hand side pod.
That sounds about right.
As a rule of thumb you want you transponder located so there is minimal material between it and the racing surface/transponder loop. Put another way, you want as little plastic or metal as possible between the transponder and the loop. Preferably none.
You don’t want to place it too high either. I think 18″ is the limit, but you shouldn’t push it. The farther away from the loop you have the transponder the weaker it’s signal will be.
Placing the transponder where Spencer aparently did seems to be the most widely accepted spot, especially if placed forward of the nerf bar.
I can’t remember where I saw this, but I recall seeing a rule for one of the sanctions specifying a specific transponder location – anything else was considered cheating. That has nothing to do with us, but it does show how serious some orgs take this issue.
The rule I have seen for WKA and Stars is the transponder must be 12″ behind the centerline of the front axle.
The new stars mounting position is center of seat back, 25 cm from ground. Found this in there “up to speed” posting on there web site. The say this is due to problem faced with the new side pods.
BillBill is correct, that is where they are saying to put it. In Jax, SKUSA told us to put it 12″ behind the centerline of the front axle on the pods but with the new body work, 12″ is square on the centerline of the nerf bar! So they modified it to 10″ and it worked great.
Some of the new body work doesn’t have a good place to mount it on the side pod so that is why Stars is looking at doing it on the back of the seat. But that is causing some problems for depending on the installation of the seat, both the cross bar and the water pump are screwing up the signal! Many if not most new karts are now coming with the Unico style body work and there are no problems mounting the transponder on them. The back of the seat is almost impossible to get to with the pipe and all that stuff they have back there. Putting it on the back of the seat is not a good idea IMHO.
I would first like to extend my thanks to the workers and the participants for what I would call a successful season opener :sun:
With that said, I have some observations that I’d like to make:
First: It’s very clear to me that if we want “our series” to grow and prosper, we absolutely, positively must have enforced tech in all classes. For example, I did not see anyone marking tires………I guess I could’ve shown up for the main with stickers on and nobody would have checked? The CSC must strictly enforce the few rules that we do have. Last year I heard a lot of comments about hot fuel and big bore kits in shifters for example (no…..I’m not going to name names). Unfortunate as it is, human nature and the competitiveness of racers will lead to an “arms race” if we do not do something about it – and soon. 👿
Secondly on the subject of safety: Having watched the race, I’m also concerned with the track exit (to the scales) when running in the clockwise configuration. A kart exiting this way during the race first has to make an extremely awkward turn while exposing its left side to the racing line……..Can we do something about this before there is an accident?
And finally: We have to do something about speeding up the program. It was going on dark when we finally ran the Pro Shifter final. This was, in my opinion, 4 hours too late. This is an easy fix: Establish a schedule and enforce it. If you’re not ready to race when the grid forms….tough.
I had a good Day, could have ended up a lot better 🙁
I hope there will not be problems in fewture races in my class of senior 4 strokes. I am guessing that I am not liable if a Jr. racer gets hurt while racing in my senior class. Larry and I were in hot pursute fighting for who was going to win, when poor #10 became a cone for me to use against Larry while making a pass. I heard Larry got a rolled up black flag as well as a chewing from the Jr.’s parent. It could have been me instead of Larry and we were very lucky it didn’t turn out worse than it did for #10.
Racing is dangerous, we all know that. A few adults racing each other and one of us gets hurt, I can handle. But I fear the day that CSC has us adults hurting someones child.Well, Wayne, the primary reasons for the delays on Sunday were, unfortunatly unavoidable.
Things could have been sped up if the officials blew off the JR1 class concerns, TaG Masters’ promised hearing canceled, Sr/Hvy weight concerns ignored, Power didn’t fall off due to overload (resulting in a complete run through of the T/S software to make sure all was well there)and we left a dozen or more broken karts out on the track.
All the problems we had could have been solved with two things – established, written-down protocols and sufficent and properly trained/equiped staff.
@Wayne MacGregor wrote:
I would first like to extend my thanks to the workers and the participants for what I would call a successful season opener :sun:
With that said, I have some observations that I’d like to make:
First: It’s very clear to me that if we want “our series” to grow and prosper, we absolutely, positively must have enforced tech in all classes. For example, I did not see anyone marking tires………I guess I could’ve shown up for the main with stickers on and nobody would have checked? The CSC must strictly enforce the few rules that we do have. Last year I heard a lot of comments about hot fuel and big bore kits in shifters for example (no…..I’m not going to name names). Unfortunate as it is, human nature and the competitiveness of racers will lead to an “arms race” if we do not do something about it – and soon. 👿
Secondly on the subject of safety: Having watched the race, I’m also concerned with the track exit (to the scales) when running in the clockwise configuration. A kart exiting this way during the race first has to make an extremely awkward turn while exposing its left side to the racing line……..Can we do something about this before there is an accident?
And finally: We have to do something about speeding up the program. It was going on dark when we finally ran the Pro Shifter final. This was, in my opinion, 4 hours too late. This is an easy fix: Establish a schedule and enforce it. If you’re not ready to race when the grid forms….tough.
I’m going to do my best to type while still shaking after reading the post by Freezeman…………..
I’m the proud parent and sponsor of Jr-1, and Jr-2 drivers and enjoy almost everything about kart racing, but I must draw a line in the sand about the big kids running with the little kids. The karts that I own have 2 pedals, a BRAKE and a gas! As drivers you must know when to use each.
We must remember that a plastic trophy is at stake and not the Winston million. I can’t belive what I read is the truth that it’s someone else’s fault if a child gets hurt or run over, that stupid at best……..If this mentality continues, I strongly suggest taping a plastic Jesus to the dash of you kart with all the rest of that stuff, because in the event that a kid gets run over with the same attitude as Sunday, start rubbing the plastic Jesus before you come off the track!
Mike (Im still shaking like a dog shi**ing peach seeds) Edwards
Mike, If I wasn’t concerned about it, I wouldn’t have posted about it.
This is exactly why I am concerned. Threats towards me or other adults that are being forced to run with the kids?? Even the comer kid class had some racing incedents happen during the race. But if there is an adult involved in the incedent then it’s totally the adults fault, right?
I am glad my post got your attention, however your judgement of my mentality is incorrect. I attend the races to race, but when CSC runs the adults and Jr’s togather I am forced into having the same liabilities as a baby sitter has while exsposing your child to a very dangerous enviroment. I don’t think there is a form that I signed to take on that responceability, plus I don’t want to exspose myself to that liability.
Really we booth are wrong if we let this continue. I am wrong for going on the track with your children and you are wrong for allowing them on the track with me.
I didn’t see you come on here and bring up this issue, then you say my attitude is bad for doing so. Gee Thanks. 🙁Freezeman, I agree with you that the classes shouldn’t run together and hopefully that can be corrected. My reaction was based on the responsibility issue and now that you have made your position clearer. I now have a better understanding. It sounded as if the adults were going to be forced to run with the JR-2 class and if a child gets hurt that the adults wouldn’t be responsible…….I hope you can understand where I’m coming from. We as parents worry enough about the kids running into one another. With the two classes running together and there being such a differential in speed and driving ability that’s what’s going to produce these kind of problems. I apologize for my comments….
Mike Edwards
I agree with Freeze. The kids should not be run with adults . What happened in the main is exactly the reason why. #67 was wrongly accused of rough driving.
The gentleman deserved the rolled blag flag regardless of the age of the other driver. He was impatient in passing the lapper and showed poor judgment. The black flag was the appropreate response. Lappers are a part of racing and it is the leaders responsibility to find a safe way around them. When they punt them out of the way, it is NOT the lappers fault.
Doug Welch I suggest that you run the JRII’s with the Tag Srs or maybe the shifter guys since you seem to think that age or engine package doesnt matter.This is a Championship series isnt it???? WKA & IKF both do not allow children to be run w/ adults.. I wonder what JB’s insurance co. would say if some one got hurt ? This is a problem that needs to be fixed. I know that I along w/ others in this class will not be racing the series if YOU continue to put us racers in danger by running , not only children with adults, also engine packages that are totally incompatable. You need to run the JRII’s w/ the jr1’s where they belong. OR better yet, bring back the Seinor 4 cycle Lim. Modified class that you axed! Hello!!!! Were running 4 cycle Lim. Modified engines!!!!
One thing nobody seems to be thinking is this. If running the Jr2s with the adults is a bad idea (I think it is), where DO we run them?
Bandimere drew 4 or 5 Jr 2 karts.
Do we run them alone? Add another 30-45 minutes (or more) to the schedule for that many karts?
Run them with Jr 1? That would put close to 20 kids (and probably more) on the track at the same time. Not a very appealing idea to many. Also – Traditionally Jr 1 teams have not like being fielded with Jr 2.
The notion of running Jr 2 anywhere other than with 4 cycle senior places both CSC and the clubs on the horns of a dilema. Where do we run them that is both safe and fair for all involved.
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