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Well, since the question was asked,
Ian is right, it is a safety issue. Plus it is very annoying.
Love kids, raised 2 of them, but you know there is a time and place for everything, playing catch in the pits, kids on razor skates, golf carts, atv’s, moped’s, etc. the pit’s during a race is neither the time or place.Honestly,
I LIKE THEM. (The MoJo’s that is)
Here’s why:
We mounted new tires for qualifying.
Since we had a whole 1.5 -2 hrs of track time in the last 1 1/2 yrs I aired up the MoJo’s, did my checks and sent Bret of to qualify. (should have checked the stuck powervalve!) Got powervalvue problem found and fixed before the heat race, didn’t bother to check the MoJo’s, he came in complaining about the chassis setup, checked the tires, LEFT FRONT NO AIR! it bleed out of a bead lock.
So the good new…………….No DNF because of flat tire, the MoJo’s will roll with out air! (handle bad, but will roll)
(Just thought someone might get a kick out of what happened)But here’s the real deal about the MOJO’s.
1. Everyone is on the same tire, they just have to find a way to make it work for them. I believe the Mojo actually helps make a spec. class a spec. class.
2. Part of the idea of the Mojo is to help keep cost down.
The MoJo’s seem to last a long time to me.So at least for me, it’s “much ado about nothing”.
Tom, on pressure for the Arrow B-Max, we like 9lbs.
Do not recommend, RR 9lbs, LR 9lbs, RF 9lbs, LF 0lbs :loony:Dave
Kudo’s to Jim and Doug for their thoughts and direction on this issue.
Everything thing that they have talked about is the reason that when Rotax came out, we went that direction.
When ICC first came out, we followed that as well, thinking that the class was designed to run stock out of the box. (as we all know that’s not how it turned out)
So I am constantly asked why do I embrace the Easykart program so much………………everything that is being talked about is why.
It’s fast, it’s stock (spec.) and it’s affordable to buy and race.
And frankly, this season running the Easykart series, has been the most affordable, and funnest season we have had yet.Problem is because it is stock /spec. class. And nobody can make money on them for blueprinting, trick carbs, add-on chassis components, etc. The only people who like them is the racers themselves, the dealers, and the importer. So that’s pretty understandable.
Doug is right about the Spec. Miata class, plus you can run in Solo II which honestly is very fun and VERY cheap to run. (F125 shifter or ES class like a stock RX-7) Our daughter now runs her 86′ RX-7 in Solo II,
Bret sharesthe car with her as a co-driver, they are having a blast doing it.Back to the orig. subject, YES we need to find a way to keep kart racing affordable, attractive and fun.
Implementation of methods brought up by Jim, Doug and Mitch are a must.The other piece of the puzzle that must be address is:
Bringing new people into the sport.
If we do not bring new people into this sport it will eventually go away.
All the dealers who market kart product in the state keep trying to split up the same piece of pie every year, when the focus should be on getting more pie. (and actually Brad brought some of this up on a post the other day, glad to see we agree on something, kudo’s Brad)
We all should be attractor’s to the sport.
It sadden’s me when I see the growth in other sports, and the media on other “extreme sports” and no growth in our sport. (i.e. mountain dew games in Denver this year)
Any and all events that present the possiblity of contact with the general public to promote the sport should be sought out.
Examples: Custom Car shows, festivals, the 3G event during winter at the Convention Center, etc.)
Suggestion is, organize a group of kart product dealers & avid racers to seek out these events and organize displays at these events to promote the sport and recruit new racers into the sport.If you watch motorsports on TV (F-1, Nascar, IRL, CART) it seems that with almost every driver interview, they are bringing up kart racing backgrounds!
(Look at the influx of interest of young girl racers since the media blitz of Danica Patrick)We as a COLLECTIVE group must capitalize on this.It’s time for us to use the power of STP (see the people)
Dennis,
I agree, and have flown the flag since day one, “The Seal is The Deal”.
When I stated allow everyone to inspect the kart’s, I’m not referring to
breaking seals, or doing a tear down.
Just if someone asks, pull the spark plug and let them look in side.
If some one ask, take off the pipe and let them look it over, and look up the exhaust port.
The idea behind the open inspection by competitors is it takes the belly aching out of the event.
They had their own opportinity to see for themselves.
Belly aching OVER.I’ll throw out an idea.
Let’s take a page from SCCA:After race, all karts go to a designated “impound” area.
Everyone in the race is given 20 minutes to inspect all the other kart’s
that ran. During this period if they wish to file a protest on another kart,
it must be done during this time.
Inside of motors can be inspected with a borescope.
With the borescope, you can pull the plug, look at the ports, piston, rings and cylinder. Plus you can take off the airbox, open the slide or butterfly and inspect the reeds.
No need to break seals, and split cases.
This brings a degree of self governing to the racers, makes tech easier,
and everyone is satisfied.
(G-RPM will provide a Provision Borescope to the CSC at cost)Another idea (we are using this one in the Easykart Series and it works well) again from the pages of SCCA road racing.
You win and kill the competition, add 5 lbs.
Plus makes for a fun race by flipping the grid in the final.I think we all have to take a look at our sport and why we are doing it.
I personally believe since at the end of the day, we are racing for a $20-$30 trophy (dust collector) shouldn’t the focus be on FUN and developing the skills of the drivers?Just a thought![/b]
Wow……..
Everyone on the same chassis, same motor and same basic setup……………… Sounds like Spec. class racing to me!
I LIKE IT!Maybe there will be a set available this year for me to run in the tuner class!
Blink (Brad),
For the third time you really don’t know me.
(and your certainly don’t know my net worth, and that’s none of your
business anyway, isn’t it?)
And for the second time, I’m happy with the way thing’s worked out
regarding the Biland.
I’m just a guy who paid money to race at your facility and bought parts.I can accept the fact that you don’t like spec. class racing.
I can accept the fact that you don’t like the Easykart.
I can personally accept just about anything you care to throw my way.
You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine.You really don’t know me or what I’m about.
Frankly, I love this sport. I love the competition, I love that fact that it can bring together close relationships between parents and Son’s / Daughter’s.
I love the fact that it gives adults the chance to live a dream that they might have had at youth again. There is a lot that I love about this sport.
I’m about building this sport. For the sake for the sport it’s self and the people who participate in it.
Since you really don’t know me, you wouldn’t know that I put a lot of time and energy in building this sport.What I don’t understand is why you believe the way make your business look bigger is to try to knock down all the other ones around you.
I don’t understand that when someone has a different opinion than yours
you resort to personal attacks.
( An come on Brad, don’t you think it’s a little third grade-ish to call me a turd?)If you re-read my post you will notice that I just tried to get you to pay attention that your customers are reading what you post.
Then all I did was answer your questions.
At no time had I resorted to personal attacks on you.With this post I’m done with you, I’ve said what needed to be said.
And have decided to agree to disagree.
The discussion is over.Blink (Brad),
Sorry I haven’t had time until today to respond to your statements.
Since the theme to this thread seems to be, “Now for the rest of the story”.
here it goes:3 Seasons ago I found out about the Biland in talking with the manufacture in Switzerland. Interesting enough at that time Biland was based out of a small town south of Bern in a region that we have several relative live at. My interest in the Biland was soley because I like Swiss engineering. Being married to a Swiss citizen and having a son and daughter who are Swiss / American citizens thought it might be a good idea to put Bret in a Biland, promote it in the U.S. and possibly get some media attention in Switerland.
The owner of Biland was bummed out that I had not contacted him sooner because he had just signed the distribution agreement with you.What we were looking for was the opportunity to help promote the product in the U.S. and possibly get some media play in the U.S. and Switzerland.
The second result would be teach my Son hands on about promotion and marketing. For this we were willing to give up a season to promote the Biland.
If you will recall my offer to you was:
You supply the motor, we would supply the chassis (Birel CR-32X).
We would man a booth at races and event’s promoting the Biland,
had out brochures, answer questions, provide demo rides, etc.
Sending the prospects to you for purchase.
We would cover: race fee’s, fuel, oil, event fee’s (for festivals & shows),
any breakage on the motor, etc.
And at the end of the season, we would give you your motor back.
Your response was a VERY smuck, “What Do I Need You For!” as you turned your back and walked away. (Which is by the way the way you
and your “friendly” staff usually communcated with us)Now this worked out VERY good for us because………
After this event we decided to run Rotax.
In working with the Rotax package, I found out about MaxJet software.
Bought it, was very pleased with it.
Liked it so much I negotiated with the owner of the company to become the United States Distributor for the product.
The system needed good reliable weather data and at the time the only two options were a very pricey weather station at $400 or a cheap unreliable consumer weather station at $200.
I looked around and found a firm that was building weather devices for Lockheed and Boeing. Took their device layed out the modifications needed for our application, and went under contract with them to build what is now know today as the RaceJet Weather Pod.
Thus, G-RPM was born.
Today we have 33 US Dealers and 16 overseas dealers with the list growing every week.
Since the inception of our products we have has 2 software upgrades to MaxJet and 1 to RaceJet. And have provided these upgrades at no charge to our clients.
(ref. MaxJet: pretty good value for a product that retails at $64.95!)
All of our products are based on keeping the cost of karting affordable by providing the best method of obtaining thebest performance without modification of equipment or risk of damaging equipment.The other reason this has worked out great for us is let’s face it,
I’m glad not to have my name associated with the Biland.As I’m writing this I’m thinking to myself, maybe I should thank you for being an ass! (sorry for colorful language boys & girls)
Yes a business has to be profitable to stay in business.
The question is the value that is brought to the customer.In reference to Easykart (beginning of this thread referring to spec. class racing)
The reason I brought Easykart to Colorado is because I am all about
keeping the cost of racing affordable.
Spec class racing works, I love the ability to put the focus on driver ablity and not the checkbook.
The Easykart class has a lot to offer on the National level and now
here in Colorado.
Again value for the money: a Birel chassis, with a IAME motor, that you can take out of the box and have on the track in 15 minutes.
You can take on nationally ranked drivers and have a shot at winning because they can bring all the tech’s they want, their semi trailer and so one, it’s still a spec. class and it comes down to driving ability.
Plus at a price point of $4395.00 (btw: Easykart MG White tires retail for $155.00 per set (price set by Juan Pablo Montoya))
How can you get better value than that!Finally keep in mind that the:
STAR Mazda Series, the Infinity Pro Series, the Toyota Atlantic Series,
and many others are SPEC. CLASS RACING.
Just because you don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it dosen’t work.Truth is Brad, you don’t know me.
I was a loyal customer, I gave you my money took a lot of crap and didn’t say anything about it.
Up until your recent post, I would have still raced at your facility, and paid you money to do so.
The problem for me is your post are filled with venom for other karting shops (I as a customer really don’t give a crap if you have a beef with someone, legal issues or not) and your customersEnough is enough.
Blink (Brad) do you even consider or think that your customers are reading this forum? It’s one thing about the incident at the 2004 Supernats and your comments about it on EKN.
But here you are taking jabs at your customers and other track / kartshop owners on this forum.
Plus! Your comments about how profitable you are. (Could this mean Dennis is right?)
How arrogant and lacking in integrity can you possibly be?Youv’e shown your colors.
I don’t care if the CSC or Supernat’s for that matter come to your track.
Based on your actions and comments, I have no intention transacting
any further business with you.I have been hopeful that this thread would just go away.
But once again it has reared it;s ugly head.It’s a good thing that most of the people in this sport are commited to the sport and love the postive aspects of it.
Other wise the excrement that keeps showing up in these post would drive everyone away from the sport.Now that you all have had the chance to air out what’s wrong with the sport and the individuals that you personally have a vendetta for,
the rest of us would like to hear what you PERSONALLY are doing to make the sport better.
If you put as much energy to building the sport as you do tearing it and individuals in it down, then we would REALLY have something happeningl.
If you choose not to take an active roll in building the sport and are more focused on tearing it down, then please take your destructive energy and venom some place else.
(There are many violent sports that are available that the adults cause problems for the kid’s, that’s probably a good place to go)Something for us who put post on this forum should keep in mind:
1. The internet is nationwide and worldwide.
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THIS SITE AND DEVELOPING OPINONS OF
ALL OF US IN COLORADO.
2. The kid’s in this sport are watching the adults.
What message and example are we giving them?
3. We have it better in Colorado than MOST states.
We have a variety of tracks, race programs, and dealers of products.
Try moving to a state that has one track and you live 3 hours from it
and no kart shop in your town.Why do I know this, G-RPM currently has over 28 U.S. Dealers and 20 International Dealers, who unfortunately read the forums on this website,
and I constantly have to explain. (Frankly, it’s embarrasing)Maybe the best choice is to follow the lead of Benjamin Franklin and
“Agree to Disagree”
Or maybe follow what our Mother’s taught us, “If you can’t say anthing good, then don’t say anything at all.”Try appreciating that we are all passionate about the sport and have
our own view point.On a final note I wish to address two issues:
1. About the documents from the Sanctioning body mentioned several
times in this particular thread:
a) Documents are open to interpretation.
Good examples are: The Constitution, and Laws.
I personally DO NOT take credence in one person’s view of what the
documents from IKF say. Interpretation will be skewed based on the
person reading them’s bias.2. I take personal offense to remarks of Mitch Wright’s crediblity.
Based on his background and his employment with a National
Sanctioning body (SCCA), I personally believe he know’s
what he is talking about and he has credibility with me.Do what you wish, either help build the sport or tear it down.
Just remember that when you point a finger, three of your fingers are
pointing at you which means that odd’s are that’s where the problem is.The races I spoke of in the last post are Easykart specific races.
The Easykart is in the SKUSA – TAGUSA rule book so you can run it in
the CSC.
When running in the CSC you can change out axles, hubs, add pills in the
front end, etc. on the Easykart. (kind of get’s away from the Easykart
concept of spec. class racing, but it can be done)I do not know of any used Easykart’s currently for sale in Colorado.
Can put you in a new one Easy Enough.
I do know of a few used one’s out of state.
Give me a call for details.
720-535-9720Yes it is a done deal !
There will be Easykart spec. class racing under WKA- STARS – Easykart rules this season.
As of yesterday there are 7 Easykarts in Colorado (all of the owners plan to participate in the Colorado Easykart races) and lots of interest
via phone calls and email’s about the class.
We expect that by the time the green flag fly’s on the start of the season
you will see a field of 15 – 20 karts in the class and it will grow from there.
The Easykart class is TRUE SPEC. racing.
Everyone on the same chassis, same motor even the same rear and front drive gears.
The only changes to the race package that are allowed are:
1. Change color of bodywork
2. Change size of seat
3. Change type of steering wheel.
If you remember the IROC series, it’s very much like that.
THE FOCUS IS ON WHO IS THE BEST DRIVER, NOT THE BIGGEST CHECKBOOK.Easykart rules are posted on http://www.G-RPM.com
Go to Easykart and click on the Easykart Tool Box page.Look for a post on Colorado Karter in the coming days about the class.
Mike,
We did not put Easykart’s in many of the local races last year because our
focus was on national events and doing development work for Easykart.
G-RPM’s focus for 2004 Easykart was:
1. Since Easykart is mostly ran in Florida, Calif and Italy jets for higher
altitudes had not been developed.
We worked the the engineer who designed the carb for the Easykart
and developed and tested jets from sizes 77-90.
( Jet sizes previously available were 85-88 )
2. Developed MaxJet software for the Easykart 125 and 125 TAG Jr.
3. Since west of the Missisippi not may areas run the 100cc anymore,
we developed the TAG Jr. restictor for the Easykart 125 and worked
with SKUSA in the development. We provided SKUSA with all of our
test data, thus this configuration is in the SKUSA and TAG-USA
rule book for 2005.
4. Worked with SKUSA to adopt the Easykart 60cc into to SKUSA and
TAGUSA rulebook.2004 was a busy time!
And as you can see the races that we did run, for us anyway were testing
sessions for what we were working on.
We did note the events of Easykarts in Colorado events in 2004
and posted the results on our website at:
http://WWW.G-RPM.com on the Easykart page.
FYI a well tuned Easykart in Easykart trim (No changes outside of Easykart rules) and good driver will run mid 39 second laps at Bandi.FYI: G-RPM is still one of the biggest supports and lover’s of the ROTAX in
the United States.
We have been doing work with the developer of the new K98 needle
ever since it’s inception.
Look for a new release of MaxJet Software for ROTAX’s that run outside
of RMC rules in the near future.If you have questions about Easykart or any of the products from G-RPM and HSHPage, Inc. , feel free to call me at: 720-535-9720.
K-Dogg,
To answer your questions on Easykart:1. Yes, this year there will be Easykart Spec. class racing (Easykart’s only
under Easykart rules) it is part of the class structure of WKA.
And thanks to George at CRE the Easykart class will be ran there.2. Yes, the Easykart is competitive in the CSC. (Last years results are
posted on http://www.G-RPM.com on the Easykart page.3. Modifications
Last years results by Easykart drivers: Bret Galegor, Dustin Courter,
Danille Dixon and Pat Searcy at club level and CSC events were
in Easykarts that were setup in Easykart Trim (in plain words all karts
would have passed tech at an Easykart event)
For non-Easykart rules races, (like CSC) yes you can run different
axels, pills in the front end, change out front driver, etc.)The neat thing about Easykart is:
1. True Spec. class racing (Everyone on the same chassis, motor, even
same rear gear) A chance to really see who the drivers are and not
the bank account behind them.
And you will have spec. class racing in your back yard this year!2. National Racing – STAR’s Easykart 125
Pretty good to show up to a national event on the back of the old
pickup truck and only have to pay $175 entry fee, plus a set or two
of tires, gas and oil.
Plus win either STAR’s East or West and get a all exspense paid
Formula BMW test (Training) with a shot at scholarships.3. Easykart is part of the WKA Manufactures cup.
4. Compete in 3 Easykart events (WKA at CRE) and you qualify for
the Easykart Nationals, if you win the Montoya’s will send you
all expenses paid to the Easykart World Finals.5. Easykart is in the rule book for SKUSA and TAG USA
It can be ran in CSC or club level.
Also to turn a Easykart 125 into a TAG Jr. all it takes is an inexpensive
restrictor in the header pipe (also approved by SKUSA)6. Prizes
7. And last but not least………PRICE!
Even with the price change because of the VERY high Euro.
The Easykart out of the box ready to go to the track cost on average
$1000 less than MOST TAG packages.We plan on making announcements about the Colorado Easykart program
in the next couple of days.
Stay tuned to The Colorado Karter for more information.So far I can tell you that the Easykart 60 has been approved by SKUSA
and will fall into the same class as the Gazelle motor.
Again, the goal is to have a package that works well within the classes
that already are in place for club level and CSC.
The end result goal as the numbers grow for the 60cc package is to have
Easykart specific races. Meaning a true spec. class under Easykart/STARS rules.
