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@Marc Elliott wrote:
On behalf of Marc, and unofficially on behalf of RBI, I am hoping that the “powers that be” consider a reschedule of the two IMI dates that conflict with the Stars schedule. That schedule was posted some time ago and I would have hoped that, to the degree possible, there would have been an effort to schedule around the Stars schedule. We are four months from the April weekend that has IMI and Stars, Tucson and eight months away from the August weekend that has IMI and Stars, Sonoma. Moving the April race back to an earlier weekend in April (I recognize that Jim wants the 15th for his Gorilla race), or a later weekend in April, shouldn’t be too difficult this far from those dates and the same is even more true for the August dates(Aug. 6th, 13th or 27th would work).
In every year of CSC’s existence there has been the effort to accomodate the schedules so as not to conflict with the National events so as to afford the opportunity to any Colorado racer if he/she desires, to race nationally. In fact, in years past, the CSC schedule has had to wait on Stars and SKUSA; this year it was not so difficult since SKUSA has no national series and Stars announced almost a month and a half ago. This compromise by CSC has not, to the best of my knowledge, hurt any driver here in Colorado and has allowed many here to try the competition on a national level. By the way Jim, Levi Roberts could have run CSC if he had so desired as no direct scheduling conflicts existed, thanks to CSC.
There are a number of drivers impacted by this decision to “NOT” consider the Stars schedule. Some have already spoken, some are mentioned implicitly in Doug’s posts and there are others that I know of who want to do both CSC and Stars. If there are some horrific scheduling issues that make accomodation impossible let me know and I’ll understand. Otherwise, what is the problem picking a couple of different dates for the IMI races, assuming that Brad can accomodate, that are close to the dates just announced. Aside from the drivers, at least for the RBI team, there is the desire to attend each CSC race to support all of it’s customers which becomes impossible if the team itself is in another state.
We all know the many issues facing this sport and I think we all know how important it is to be inclusive rather than exclusive. I remain hopeful that some compromise can be reached here as to these dates so many months away. It would seem to me, with nothing seemingly cast in stone in terms of the announced dates, that compromises can be reached that allow all Colorado karters to race the CSC and compete nationally if they so desire. I remember last year some posts as to why CSC should accomodate the national schedules and Stacey’s responce to the effect of let’s allow our racers the opportunity to go out and compete on a national level if they want. That’s the same attitude we need now.
Chuck Elliott
Couldn’t agree with you more.
Why accomodate our local national racers? Because we should!
Name another way you’re going to attract attention to Colorado besides showcasing our best talent, with names like Kyle Ray, Marc Elliot, etc.If anything, I’d like to see all of us who’d like to race nationally join together as a sort of “Team Colorado”. It’s good for anyone involved….makes our racing more competitive, and is fantastic publicity.
I say just move one date as a worst case scenario compromise. For sure not everyone is going to race nationally……but my hope is that we could help get more people into attending a few.
I’m up in the air myself with the STARS series since Easykart got dropped like Jennifer Aniston after Brad met Angelina. Supposedly there will be a “Spec 125” type class. I figure Leopards, Rotaxes, etc……anything that keeps in line with lower-maintance and non-glorified ICA.
:cheers:
@Mike Jansen wrote:
Gentlemen:
I really don’t have a desire to run Rmax. My main reason is because it would give me nothing but heartburn to get DQ’d because I have an illegal nut on my engine or such. I’ve heard about the draconian measures and “thankyou very much but no thanks” is my attitude. When they start spec’ing things for an advantage instead of using common sense then I’ll sit on the sideline. If that changes then perhaps I’ll change. Or am I wrong???? Tell me otherwise….
You’ll be fine. I’d say they’d look at carb first and foremost. Other than that, the “Seal is the Deal”……..and who would take the effort to cheat when you’ll pick up more time in the chassis then anything.
Heavy thumbs up for RMAX series here:)
@Dan Peterson wrote:
Chuck D
As a fellow Briggs racer, I would to thank you for backing up everything Greg said reguarding ARRAGANT attitude that most none Briggs racers express. What section of the bleachers do you race from? Your opinion means absolutely nothing to us. Look for the Briggs Modified class to be the most dominant class next year. 😀Dude, chill. I was just having fun with that. I B.S. with the World Formula guys all the time down at CRE when we ran the Easykart mains with them, since we passed them like they were stuck to the pavement.
Just out of curiousity….how much does a Briggs motor package that you guys race cost?
Reason i ask is that if you REALLY want to promote your class….you should be going after people looking to get into karting on a budget and have fun.
You’re not going to win over guys in ICC’s and TAG karts by talking badly and saying 4-cycles are better than them,or at least saying your class is better.
How many Briggs racers would commit to the state races on average? If you wanna be included, I’ll help.
Let me race a 4-cycle on nitro though 😀
@J.B. Olmstead wrote:
Greg , I kinda feel your post was directed to me ,so I’ll try to help if it is possible for you to gather up the huge group of loyal Briggs racers you indicate there is .
Stand up and be counted — If there is more than 3-4 Briggs racers who will make the committment necessary to attend ALL the scheduled races , maybe, just Mabey , I can convince the other race tracks and all the other racers to justify the extra time it will take to accomodate your small group !
One thing in life you can be sure of Greg , is that change is one constant that you cannot stop from happening ! Perhaps it is time for you to make a few changes too ?
I notice every now and then a loyal KT-100 driver will show up and say “why don’t the CSC let KT 100’s race in ??
We did not “86” any classes you did it to yourselves by natural attrition , the past is gone forever , come see me , maybe I can make you a deal on a Leopard package !
J.B.
You’re right J.B.
Why race unless you’re gonna go FAST :loony:
If that briggs class runs nitromethane it might be fun though:)
@Freezeman wrote:
Rich posted the rules and cost in the 6th post.
Maybe some of the Colorado promoters of kart racing should take a good look at how Gary promotes this. I don’t know how he’s doing it, yet the event center I am shure cost a little more than IMI or Bandimere to rent for the night and they are still paying the racers back 100% of there entry which isn’t high to begin with. Then he will also have TV and paper adds to get the fans there to support the racers and the series. Then top it off with a nother event in MN. two days later with a nother in AZ 8 days later.
If any racers have the time he will even transport you and or your equipment to the other races.Sorry, im an idiot for not reading. Would gary be able to rent entire packages? I don’t have “speedway” body work and those chassis look entirely different than a sprint chassis.
@Freezeman wrote:
Humm. Is Blink at a differant track? 15 teeth differance makes me think twice before asking for advice.
Well, you could run a 69 or 70 and keep revs down. That will allow you to concentrate more on being smooth and you’ll get more hours out of your motor. No sense in twisting it since theres no race, unless you hate money 😀
But if you wanna go FAST, listen to what Kyle says. I think he knows something about that 🙂
@Kyle Ray wrote:
I think they should combined some of the shifter classes to create more competition, having 3 classes with the exact same rules for ICC is kind of foolish. maybe just an Pro class, masters class and a novice class, no semi pro.
KR
I think you’re 100% right. Good idea Kyle.
@stacey cook wrote:
Chuck, we get around 25ft a year 30 minutes away so snowmobiling and Sking is awesome but down in the valley here in Grand Junction we can usually drive and play golf all winter…
Nice. my Cousins in Wisconsin are big-time sledders…….trying to get him and a couple of friends out west this year for some mountain sledding. We need to put long-tracks on a few of the sleds though.
@stacey cook wrote:
:argue I’m going snowmobiling :cheers:
Sledding sounds nice……you guys get snow out west there yet?
How about running Dunlop tires?
I’ve heard they’ll last a LOT longer than MG’s (which i still love, but they just aren’t as economical).
And I don’t think winning any of these series or making times faster, etc is going to bring in outside money, sponsorship, whatever to colorado. We can’t even keep our road-course tracks for heaven’s sake.
I’ve heard you’re a mean ass chess player Brad, so I’m still skeptical about picking up that hobby 😛
I totally agree with tires. Sure they’re really not that expensive at $160 a pop, but thats $160 a day to run! I’ve talked to guys who run SCCA and Legends cars, a $600 set of tires will last a season!
I’d love to brainstorm as well……….or pitch in on a group buy from MG or whoever.
Let me know Rich!
Are you gonna be down at CRE this weekend or no?
@Doug Welch wrote:
A Norcal Leopard will have a different shape in the head when compared to stock. There will also be different squish measurements. They should be easy to catch if you know what your looking for.
But the gains are not significant for most drivers. It is easy to be fooled in thinking a guy/gal has a hot motor if they come off the corners faster than another driver. A chassis that is rolling free will get the power down much qucker and carry much more momentum than a chassis/driver that is not. The difference can easily be 4 to 5 kart lengths. This will translate into 3 or 4 mph down the straight. I hear it all the time, “Its the motor” when in fact its the chassis/driver.
I totally agree chassis and driver are WAY more important than motor…..I was just curious since a lot of the Norcal guys think they have to blueprint to be fast, etc. Some guys have told me a few stock leopards have won races at Infineon against blueprinted motors though.
How do you get the chassis to roll more “free”?
