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Stacey,
Congratulations, your track is the best i have ever been to (i have been to ten) and you are the nicest people out there. When it gets above the temperature of liquid nitrogen out there, I will stop by.Please do not run Pro 125 with anyone else, the speed difference is too great and usually the pro class is the larget (i think was at everone the biggest). Put s2 with g1 since times will be simmilar
IMHO this is what i think of the classes…..
Shifter classes are good, like last year, leave them the same just let the stock motos run novice at a low weight.
Jr 1 4 and 2 cylce is fine by me as long as they always run together.
TaG cadet might not workout, but we will see. Possibly run this with TaG JR as is they both are not all that big in size most likely.
Everything else looks great, especially the Comer idea. For the rules in pro 125 let it be open tire please, with iccs running 30 mm carbs, no PI boxes on iccs, and open motos. LEt iccs weigh at 385 and motos at 375. I think that will work great. Thank you and good work.Mike, Call Alex at-303-808-1044 he has the only dyno on the front range, I have dynoed all of my engines on it.
Angie,
Wonderful job considering… The slideshow was cool, the food room was nice, the food wasent my cup of tea, but still was good. Once things got going it went decently quick, and it was pretty funny out there too. Thanks for the hard work.Like Jansen said, there probably will not be enough stock motos to justify a class. This would need an influx of at least 8 or more to give the stock motos their class. I belive the only place they are poplular are in So. Cal. So lets have novice the same as this year, S2 the same rules as novice including tires as the YHC for cost reasons (same as this year, i guess the only thing S2 is purposefull for is driver development) And SR heavy and Pro with same rules with the exception of weight. I do belive ICCs should have a higher weight then motos. We basically kept the classes the same this year and it worked out AWESOME. With the exception of getting S2 into a big class, lets deviate from changing what already is a steallar program. Maybe ditch Jr2, no one really runs that anymore.
Kurt, your idea of a CSC racer needing 4 races minimum is good, thats what Rob Howden of SKI suggested to my pops when they talked in norman about our series, however that might not work seeing as CSC comes so early that there might not be enough club races for them to participate. A lot of newbies have jumped on the CSC bandwagon with success: Heres a list
Myself (1 first, 2 seconds)
Ben Schemerhorn (1 first, 1 third)
Denny Garwood (1 First)
T Broekemeier (Fourth)
Conner New (2nd i think, and a Fourth)
Chad Corken (a second)
Jansen (a fourth)
Both of Bill Farleys Kids as well with A championship.
Mike Petrie (first)
Mike Baures (second)
Jeffery Rein (second)
I think the comer 50 kids as well, but not sure
Most of these guys are 1 or 2 seasons of the CSCs existance, so not bad, and mostly I didn’t add last years stuff as i cannot find results for it so….
If I forgot anyone or made a mistake, sorry.Also some dude got second in pro this year without any shifterkart experiace so…….
Another point, and I am not involved with this class, but some buddys of mine are interested in novice class with stocker icc motors. Without a ladder system, Kurt, you are asking people that may have enough experiance in a shifter, but want an intermediate class to run, or do not think they are ready/comfortable with a the hyper competitive proclass. If there are just stock motos, then a dude will have to buy as stock honda or yamaho, then ditch it for an ICC or a ‘weedy or anyother powerfull moto if they want to move up. So if the racer can start off in novice with a K9 or a Pavesi, run it one year, get it modified the next, and run pro the next. There is 3 seasons of racing out of that motor. With ICC homologations every 3 years, that would mean the motor is PERFECTLY not out dated for competition use. I have a 2004 homolagtion spec, and a 2001 (the motors 03) as well. And the 03 is a tad faster, so honestly being able to continue with the same specification powerplant in a progression/latter of multiple classes would help the sport grow and keep people in it. Motos should be compensated as well that way people with motos can remain plenty competitive against ICC powerplants. Not trying to jump on anyone, but trying to offer my best judgements, if you dissagree, say so for the benefit of the series.
God i need to get into my new kart, these withdrawl from karting syptoms are killing me
Actually the TM engine is somewhat done at the factory, they offer a built version of the K9b for about 500 more. Look at the January (i think) issue of KS where the (stock fiberglassed reed) TM was dynoed at 40.00hp, the CRS in a later Spring issue at about 40.5ish, and vortex at 40.2ish, pavesi had 38, i belive those motors are intended to go to builders anyway, at least thats what BM said in his article. All of these motors had 16-16.5lbs of torque. The CRS and the Vortex appear to be more built from the factory, I think the Vortex runs Carbon reeds as its HP hopper (those are big in HP gains).
PS the Tm dynoed at KS was an 03, the 04 is faster.
A point well taken above.
AJ has the track record at imi with a 51.0, and most pros qualify at 51 5-52.5, but some people that are faster then most novices, but still struggling sometimes should allow for a ladder system to progress their program through experiance on the track through races. I will side with Kyle Ray on the novice one, not my class either, but ICCs should remain stock, a decent stock ICC has 38-40.5hp, that is quite a bit especially for an entry level novice class, or kids moving up from 80s or Tags. I personally do not know motocross based powerplants really at all, but it appears that your average novice moto with a smaller carb, and stock ignition is getting a whomping from SP style ICC engines, so if the iccs remain totally stock and the motos have the same rules as CSC had this year (why change from success) then they will be fairly even, maybe even give the motos a ten pound weight benefit, as is a moto is lighter then an ICC, that might be feasable to make the motocross powerplant more competitive in Colorado. I have seen a lot of motos out there, they shouldnt have to do much to remain competitive, let alone buy an ICC. S2 should allow modified ICCs and Motos, maybe allow a weight benefit for the motos, with the PI boxes and such for the motos, but run harder tires or someother form of rule to keep the speeds reasonable for people trying to take their time and climb a ladder to the top. As for Pro 125, I have said it basically, do not change it. Leave the ICCs and Motos alone, open tire, 385 lbs (moto guys should speak out if they want a ten pound weight benefit like SKUSA allowed them), no FC engines, and NO PI BOXES or larger the 30mm carburetors on ICCs.PS Pro 125 Kicked ass this year, thanks to everyone who made it possible for me to race this series and the competition was intense, see AK qualifying results in August, and IMI results from August as well, the field stacks one tenth at a time, I loved racing this class in 04, I WILL BE BACK!!!
nasty sounding kart, got the job done
its funny how fast, and how much speed our karts really have but no one seems to think in the other forms of ametur motorsport that they are anything other then toy racers. Ive been in a few cars trying to hustle around bandi before, best lap, about a comer 50 pace.
