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@Freezeman wrote:
If you miss at dodging hay bails it hurts more.
Through extensive field testing, I have discovered that hay bales hurt less than other karts though 😀
@Jon Romenesko wrote:
Just so I can get a perspective on things…just how long has the CSC been around for? Out of curiosity.
The CSC first ran in 2003.
@Brandon Anderson wrote:
???? I’m confused, was there REALLY only 31 karts at a CSC race? Everyone took their drop this race or what…..everytime we’ve gone this year there has been a really good turnout. What gives?
Brandon Anderson
http://www.reactionkarting.com8/20 was a club race, not a CSC.
I didn’t get to go to Greeley, so I won’t even try to comment on that race directly, but here’s some general thoughts of mine on temporary/street races…
@BoulderG wrote:
What would be a terrific spectator turnout? 2,000 people? 5,000?
The best spectator turnout I’ve experienced was at the ’01 and ’02 Grand Prix of Barrie in Ontario. SKUSA doesn’t have any of their old info online anymore and Ekarting only goes back to 2003, but the number that comes to mind is 4,000 spectators. I might be totally off base on that. Regardless, it was an absolutely amazing experience to be racing with people lined up 3 rows deep the entire way around the fenceline.
@BoulderG wrote:
The challenge is reaching them and motivating them to attend. This applies for any event – karting, bike race, peach festival, balloon fest, volleyball tournament, etc.
Yeeeessssss! IMVHO, the Barrie race was successful from a spectator standpoint for three main reasons:
1) the race was massively promoted in the local radio and media.
2) the race was held in a highly visible location (in one of the most heavily traveled areas of town). Note that while the race did close down a city street, it wasn’t entirely in the city streets, and doesn’t need to be. There’s nothing wrong with running in a parking lot, as long as it is visible and accessible.
3) Specators could watch the race for FREE. Admission to the pit areas cost money, but just to watch the race was free. I think this is absolutely key to spectator attendance. Nobody has heard of karting, and they won’t pay to watch something they’ve never heard of.I’ve not been to Rock Island, so I won’t try to analyze that race. But I have been to several other street & temp circuits that, for one reason or another, failed to bring in the promised crowds of spectators.
Austin Grand Prix (2002): decent location, reasonably well promoted… but the organizers decided they wanted to make a buck on spectator admissions. There was line of people waiting to get in all weekend. As I watched, they’d get to teh front of the line, find out that tickets were on the order of $15 each, and nine times out of ten, they’d turn and walk away. It was quite disheartening to see.
Dallas Promoto 2003, in conjunction with the IRL race: great location (captive audience), no promotion, nowhere for spectators to watch from. Surprise surprise, nobody came.
Supernats 2003 at the Rio: awesome location, crap promotion. Could have been a great spectator event on location alone, except for the kicker – SKUSA failed to provide easy access to the track for spectators. The only access was at an unmarked and inobvious gate at one end of the pits. And once again, the price of admission was too expensive. I actually saw people coming up to the outside of the fence asking where to go to get in. I can only imagine how many people just gave up and left.
Supernats 2004 at Sam Boyd Stadium: bad location away from the public eye, no promotion.
As far as the date of the race… yes, a lot of people do other things that weekend, but on the same token, it’s a traditional weekend for festivals and events as well. Some people will go in the mountians or go camping, but there’s a surprisingly huge population base in CO that doesn’t have any interest in the outdoors. Regardless, I don’t see the date as the major hurdle to getting spectators to come to the race.
@Rich Vito wrote:
But you MUST fit snug in seat!
If you are sloshing around you will have sore ribs.
Just like to reiterate this point. The brand or type of seat is secondary to the fit, IMO. If you’re in between seat sizes, tape some foam padding in there. Your chest will compress a surprising amount while driving, so take that into account when you’re fitting yourself.
Huh. Never woulda expected to find that video here. Amazing what you find on the interweb when you’re bored at work.
Ahhhh, just my luck, that’s the weekend right before my finals.
This has got to be the third or fourth cool race in the past two years that has fallen on a weekend right before my final exams….
Curt mentioned this on another thread, but http://www.ekartingnews.com/ should be posting Supernats results, and SKUSA has also been doing a good job of getting results up the day of (http://www.superkartsusa.com/). And if that’s not enough, there will probably be somebody there who will post at least some unofficial results in the forums on http://www.kartsportmag.com.
The CSC is not sanctioned by any national organization. It uses SKUSA, Tag USA, and WKA rules as a basis for it’s rules package. IMI, GJMS, and Bandi all use NKA for their insurance (at least, they did last I knew), as virtually everybody in karting does.
Rich,
Nope, I’m going to RIT. I admit, I’m not a fan of the state having lived in Colorado all my life, but I’m enjoying going here anyway. Nope, won’t be at Steamboat this year again…. one of these years I might finally get to go after missing all of them so far!
As my dad said, I’m going to be writing a race report for Super Karts Illustrated on the TaG Masters race. It would really help me if you all could send me press releases just describing what happened during the race, from your perspective. What chassis and engine you are running and what team name you run under would also be very helpful.
I did watch the race, but I honestly don’t remember all of what happened. I’m a little frazzled because Mon morning right after the race on Sun, I drove to Rochester, NY to go back to college (including a frustrating tow truck experience in Ohio when my starter died….) and have since been running all over Rochester trying to get stuff together for my new apartment. I think it just about killed off my memory. So yeah, it would be great if you could help refresh it for me 😀
If you could just email something to me, I’d appreciate it. Doesn’t need to be fancy or anything. Tell any of your buddies who might not read this to do it too.
Thanks a lot.
13/80 is close to 12/74. You do run a higher risk of breaking the sprocket on the ground by running the larger 80 tooth gear. You’d probably be fine though.
@Little Bill wrote:
My power plant is a cr 125 with an rs setup. By the way is that refered to as a crs?
No. The CRS is a different engine entirely; it is one of the several ICC engines available.
Well, a TaG kart would best fit most of your criteria, except for the intitial cost. It would be low maintainance (especially the Rotax), and it would be a kart that you could race either the senior or junior class with. With the size discrepency, you may want to have a couple different seats so the smaller people driving it don’t get beat up too badly. Believe me, you can get pretty banged up if a seat is too big for you.
As far as something closer to your $2k number, you’re pretty much looking at one of the four stroke engines. I’m honestly not too versed on the engines currently on the market, so I don’t know about reliability/running costs on them (though I think most still require more maintainance than the Rotax… could be wrong). Also, I don’t think there is an engine in that category that both you and your kids could compete with, but once again, could be wrong.
Ever since I’ve been racing, IMI has had the rule that if you go off the track with all four, you have to stop completely before coming back on.
Most sanctioning bodies just say you have to look, but the rules is the rules.
Bummer for Kyle though…. hope he runs the TaG at the CSC race, more people to make it interesting.
