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Rich
I drive the track all the time and it is not as bad as you make it sound. Your driving line must be off the track, like the MX track. It will cost over $110,000 to put 2″ on top. We will be doing our annual repairs when the cold weather stops as always. I plan on replacing the curbing this year and paving next year. You can also plan on paying more as it will take about 5 years to pay for it.
Jay
After figuring out exactly what had to be done to the Comers to make them equal it just was not practical or economical. Why do you think it costs $300-$800 each to blueprint them? I also would be constantly working on them to maintain the consistency. You can buy kid karts without the engine, granted not all of them, but you can. If it is an issue I would take the new Comer 50 as a trade in on the Honda. You do not have to buy a Honda engine for practice as they would be available to rent at any CSC track for $10 a day. You also do not have to pay to have it repaired or rebuilt. Another advantage is you have backup engines available on race day in the unlikely event that you do have a problem and it won?t cost you a thing. Why did you feel the necessity to have your engine blueprinted? What did it cost you to have Scott Smith blueprint your engines? It should have cost you a days points for the fine example of cheating with the cut seals he provided on your engine which you claimed no knowledge of. The wheel is broken and can?t be repaired without getting a new one and that is true as we have found out over the last few years.
What exactly are the other track owner?s objections? How many Kids karts were running in the Nations Cup, how many had blueprinted engines? If it?s not an issue then why do parents spend the money to get their Comer engines blueprinted? Why do some of them blatantly cheat?
We are selling the Honda package with clutch, engine mount, throttle adapter for $450. The Comer is $510 stock $800-$1200 blueprinted.
Why are we again talking about a solution to the engine problem when we already have one? We have been over the claiming and engine swapping scenario many times. I have yet to hear one good reason not to use the Honda engines I am providing. Just because it is not a Comer is not a legitimate reason. The Comer engine is the problem, has been the problem and should not be part of the solution. Where are the responses from the parents that are against using the Honda and what are your objections to using them? This reminds me of when I asked my dad when I was 6 years old why I had to go to church on Sundays when my friends did not, ?because I said so now get in the car before I take off my belt?. I have only heard positive responses with a majority of parents in favor of the Honda package.
Mike, you want the truth, you can?t handle the truth.
The whole point of the Spec Kid Kart class is learning to drive and have fun, not about going to national races. It does not matter what engine it is as long as the performance is similar and they are as close to the same between engines as possible. To get parity with the Comer 2-stroke you cannot run them out of the box, they are not like a sealed Rotax, and you must basically blueprint each engine. This means complete disassembly and checking each and every part, matching port heights and compression, alignment of the crank, etc. Even then there is not much you can do about different port timing and compression between cylinders and alignment of the block. The Honda engine does not have ports, all of the parts are quality die cast, and it is built with more precision. They are very consistent out of the box. It is also a four-stroke that does not require oil in the fuel, another variable that makes fuel tech more difficult. What you have with the Comer class now requires anyone wanting to be competitive to have their engine blueprinted at an extra expense. There still will be the difference between parts that engine builders will cherry pick to build the best one which makes it even more expensive and more disparity. Having the spec class was a way to eliminate the engine out of the equation. Now a few people want to make the engine an issue again. This has turned into a political situation with parents as the lobbyist and the track owners the politicians. All I have tried to do in selecting the Honda was to make it as fair as possible, reduce the cost of racing for everyone involved and help grow the sport by eliminating the fighting and cheating accusations which have dominated the class for the last few years. I have been doing my research on which engine to use on my own because I knew it would become a pissing match if I told anyone. I guess the track owners voted on it today with what I consider 2 votes for the Comer and 1 for the Honda. JB with all of the outside pressure could not commit one-way or the other so the Honda lost. If you want the same old brain damage we have had in the past with this class just keep everything the same as it has been. Tech will not mean anything anyway as a good blueprinted engine will pass and the beginner with the engine out of the box will also. Which one do you think would have an advantage? What is it going to take to get at least one beginner class where parents, personalities, money and politics are not involved?
I will be sending 2 engines up to Stacey next week that will be available. Tell me what chassis you have and I will be sure to have the right mount.
Jim
Many of the kids in this group who have shown interest in this class have driven our kart with the engine. I am more concerned about control of the class. I believe this engine and clutch combination is a better choice. The fuel tech for a four-stroke is easy. I also think that some would have a slight advantage with past experience with the Comer. I am providing the complete drive train for their kart for no extra cost to them, how much better of a deal can you get? We are also running the high dollar Comer 50 class with open gear and muffler for those who want to stick with the blueprinted engines. We ran an A and B group last year at the same time on the track. The Honda engine package performs very similar to the Comer. The quality is much greater for both the engine and the clutch. It is much less expensive and the parts are available at any Honda dealer at a good price. The Honda engines are available for testing on non-race days for $10 a day at any CSC track. The real test will be in the next few weeks on race day in competition. If there needs to be adjustments with gears, etc. it can be made before the first CSC race.
It was gruesome sitting in a kid kart testing for weeks. Those on the western slope can just send me a list of the chassis types and we will make your engine mounts with the same offset as a Comer.
IMI has been in negotiations to be the exclusive Biland importer and service center again. The issues should be resolved this week. If you have any questions about the Biland we have been and continue to be the source of engines, parts, service and information for the engine in the USA.
Rick
I know you had alot to drink that night and may have forgot we discussed adjusting the Tag weights for each track in all classes, not just the Jrs.
320 lbs for all engines is just plain wrong unless you want to turn the JR TAG class into a Leopard only class. We will be adjusting all of the TAG weights for all the classes at each track to make them more competitive together.
