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Mitch/Brian/Larry/Joe:
Are you guys sure you don’t want Brad doing what he did to us to everyone else and running the New racers off because there not part of his groupies and in the in news that others are not??????????Rodney,
I think we’re in agreement. Clear, published rules that conform to national standards and that are enforced uniformly and consistently.
Merry Christmas! :cheers:
Mitch, Brian & Larry….
Ditto..
It helps to have a black and white set of rules that has been written by organizations who have already made all the big mistakes. Although no set of rules is perfect, we could at least have someone to step-in so we don’t have another Ullstrom disappointment. We have been there too and nothing hurts more than someones ego “hammering” your season.
I am sure that the CSC board will do the right thing. We as consumers and racers just need to make sure we follow what’s printed, set-up our karts to conform, and go have fun.For everyone who had their fingers in their ears,The csc board told us awhile back that we will have rules written up for the csc. If the tracks are not part of a sanctioned org. wka-skusa ect YOU CAN NOT USE THERE RULES IN PRINT .If you do the track owners will get sued.This is club racing. Dont worry, rules will be in BLACK & WHITE!
Just released on http://www.ekartingnews.com
While SKUSA in re-inventing themselves they have included Colorado into the Mountain Region, as in the past. In order to race at their World Finals and Supernational events you must participate in 50% of their regional events, and be in the top ten in regional points to be able to enter into these events.
Question: How do you race SKUSA Regional events without adopting their written rules and conforming to their standards?
Is our SKUSA Regional President going to get more involved?
Do we now go to Black Rock in force and challenge them to come here?Just wondering here.
We can’t use there rules in print? Then what do you call what the C S C did last year they used other sanctioning bodies rules with exceptions etc. . That is no different then what “KING GEORGE” does with wka’s rules and makes it a local option. Yes CRE is paying to use national rules, and absolutly no clue as to why “KING GEORGE” feels like he needs to change them. Maybe the same reasons the track owners in Denver and Grand Junction change the rules. To promote track loyalty and the dumping of money on parts and pieces you cannot use out of state let alone from CRE to the CSC and vice-versa. The only difference I can see is that if the rules are in print everyone will have a copy to reference off of. If your worried about a lawsuit the sanctioning bodies would already have enough evidence to come after the CSC. This site as well as the newsletter says we are using their rules with exceptions.
Brian Moore
Running SKUSA rules would require everyone to be a member of SKUSA, $75 EACH and we would have to pay them $6 PER HEAD for every racer at every race. Thats about $13125 for memberships of 175 racers which is about what we had last year and $5880 for an average of 140 racers at each of the 7 races last year, $19005 total if the numbers stay the same. What do you get? A set of rules that covers less than half of our classes. You get to use the SKUSA name and LOGO and about 10 colorado guys get to run the national events. :rotate:
It would give each of us something else to shoot for. To represent Colorado in a true National Championship without traveling all year all across the country to do so.
National exposure in the mags on a monthly basis is also a plus.
I am all for it.
Richard
Brad:
What if only the Skusa classed drivers had to pay. I would be glad to pay around $125 extra to have a written set of rules in my and our competitors hands. The rule book is about 150 pages, I wouldn’t want to be the one typing up a new rule book. You ran SKUSA races along with the club races in the past, maybe things have changed.
I am not trying to stir the pot, just trying to make tech run a lot smother.
My opinion
BillIm in too! Gladly pay the money for a real set of rules! Brad I don’t understand your thinking that it will cost us racers more. The only thing more expensive when it comes to racing a National event is the travel expenses, and missing the days of work. It costs far less to race a weekend of Stars then it does to race here. Is it maybe that greed and control are getting in the way of decision making?
Brian Moore
SKUSA does not have rules for over half of our classes. All of the racers would have to pay the fees, not just the ones who want to race nationals. You would be better off with IKF or WKA than SKUSA if you are looking for a rule book to go by, at least they run more of our classes. How does it cost less to run Stars than CSC?
Brad:
I was only talking about the classes who ran SKUSA type rules last year. They would have to pay the $75 plus the head tax, in return they would run those rules. This seems to be the easy answer, it would cost more, but would have less troubles. And you are right, it costs 3 -4 times as much to run stars in the pro class. Entry fees are around $400 alone, plus travel, plus, plus, …. As for the other classes, we are not running them so I really don’t have a say.
Christmas is over we need to get our ducks in a row for next season.
BillAll of the racers must pay the fee’s not just the racers who’s classes are run by SKUSA rules. We would still have to have rules for the other classes.
Have you talked with Janowski? It does not make sense to me that the Jr. classes along with the novice 125 class will need to pay you anything. If SKUSA needs help to grow I am sure you have the upper hand as a track owner. Give it a try, and keep the glass half full for us waiting to get our 05 campaign built and on your track tunning.
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