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@Chuck D wrote:
Just what we need. More classes 😕
I’ll stick to Lo206. Running Easykart, I figured out what a “Certified Builder” can do to these engines.
Buy 10, take them apart, match the pistons/rods, and boom you have a 1-2hp advantage with a “seal on it”.Also, this is a flathead motor taken to the max. No more 3-4 seasons before rebuilds.
If it were me, and I wanted to spend more money racing, I’d go 2-stroke. Or buy a World Formula.
With all due respect sir, I will respond of this with some positive feedback that will hopefully help out. This class would only be a part of the SBR series and not the CKT series. So unless you plan on running that series please refrain from putting down an idea.
As far as the reputable builder issue goes, if you had a bad experience with a “reputable builder”, please don’t take that opportunity to bash all other builders. Just FYI, those 206’s can also be stripped down, compared and determined that there is a 1 to 2 hp difference.
In response to your idea that a Blue Wazoom is a maxed out flat head, you are extremely incorrect on that. This is a mild build figuring these types of motors can be pushed to produce 30+ horsepower.
I can understand your concern about “adding more classes” but if you don’t plan on running the class or the series, please don’t bash on an idea. If a few people are diehard flathead fans, I’m sure they would love to possibly see this happen.
For those that are interested, please don’t let this push you away from the idea. I will still be at the track tomorrow and you can also message me any questions or concerns that you may have about these motors or this class in general.
By the way, on average this motor even with a rebuild is still cheaper than a brand-new 206 from a “reputable builder”
@Kirk Deason wrote:
Mac, a pair of wrestling shoes will work just as well as fancy Alpinestars driving shoes.
Good thought!! Thank you!
@jdavis-403 wrote:
How about some World Formula or Animal racing with retired lo206s 😉 😉 A bunch of 206 drivers have some old 206s around that would be great to convert. 😉
Already taken care of……
http://www.fastermotors.net/206mod.html@Rodney Ebersole wrote:
Mac, The racing series has been working hard over the years to be all inclusive which has lead to some method of including as many karters racing organized races all completed in just one day.
To fragment the 2 open classes into more individual “open” classes would make it even harder to allow all kart racers and staff to enjoy a meaningful day at the races designed to crown a champion for each class raced. The oxymoron would be an “open LO206”. Just call it an open 4 stroke TAG and go out and try to win with it in the Open class that’s all ready in the schedule.
Also feel free to have one built with a tranny and enter the open shifter class.
What more could a kart racer want?I have absolutely all respect for staff, owners, promoters, etc. and mean no bad manners in any direction. What works, works. I get that. I’m just wondering if they’re missing out on more than what is available to the naked eye. No offense to the 2-strokes but you’ll always catch me in an underpowered 4-stroke than ever driving a 2-stroke. But because that’s not allowed, there’s one less person in that race.
Rodney, to emphasize on your idea with the shifters…I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to take a 450MX motor and run with the shifters!! ABSOLUTELY!! Very comparable power, very reliable motors, very competitive racing.
As far as an Open 4 stroke TAG…..hey if it’s allowed…. :revNot trying to stir the pot at all, just trying to gather info about this……but isn’t an “open” TAG class kind of an oxymoron to the intention of the TAG motor?
If that’s the case, and with the LO206 class becoming so popular, are you planning on having an “open” LO206 class?
Again, not trying to push the limits here but a TAG motor can run you from $3,000 all the way up to $5,000 where as an open 4-cycle (whether it’s a GX-200, Predator 212, Clone, B&S Animal, etc.) can all be built to compete for around $2,500 with MANY reputable builders out there already doing this.@Doug Welch wrote:
The CKT runs two open classes. One for shifters and one of tag engines. The only thing we ask is that you use unaltered fuel as fuel additives can be dangerous to your fellow competitors.
What about a more diverse open class? Flatties, outlaws, limited mods, open mods, big blocks (390’s, 420’s), etc.
If anything it’d be a great learning experience for others to see what different kinds of motors there are in the karting world.
Even the old KT100’s I think would really be interesting for the 2-stokers to see if they don’t know much about the history of karting.@jdavis-403 wrote:
Yeah, IMI doesn’t like Duro’s for some reason. Not sure why. They would make money selling them. With all the 206 drivers in town it would be stupid not to keep stock. Podium runs out all the time due to the amount of drivers buying tires. Granted, they go for a full season but still.. I heard like 40 drivers are expected this year for CKT. Just a rumor I heard while talking to guys at the track. If this turns out to be true this is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!
Not a fan of having a monopoly on tires lol but hopefully that won’t be a problem.
40+…so I’m guessing there will a qualifying “make it or go home” situation with a field that big?
@jdavis-403 wrote:
You might want to check with Podium as well. They had a delivery on its way IIRC.
Gave them a call, unless someone else has something I will be going with them. Interestingly enough, IMI said they don’t have any Duro’s nor are they planning on ordering any. Not sure why not but that was what I was told.
@Craig Mansfield wrote:
😀 Welcome glad to help with any questions.
Craig Mansfield
303 242 2929Hey Craig, or anyone at that matter, I caught wind that there’s supposedly a sign up day happening this year at Unser. I’ve searched the site but can’t find anything about it. Any ideas on timeframe? Anything special I need to bring?
