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- January 4, 2006 at 2:46 am #52357
hotwheels1517
ParticipantBlink,
Gee I just answered your question. I guess your answer is no? Well before you knock other series you ought to do your homework. If I am Mr. Big Time you set your standards low. I do care about how the CSC is run that is why I don’t want a repeat of how it was run in 2004. 2005 was much better rules were enforced tech was done. Not only was tech done but it was not by a karting buisiness owner whos decision could be swayed by purchases made.
Brian Moore,
Father of Brandon #77 comer 80 and novice shifterP.S. If you think I was knoking the competition here I am not. However when was the last time you had 41 comer 80 jr.1s on your track for a race? There were 41 in Norman OK last year for the season opener of Stars.
January 4, 2006 at 3:33 am #52358Brad Linkus
ParticipantGo race your Stars race. It is still a go-kart race, I don’t care if they do get 41 overpriced underpowered karts, it is a national kart race so I would expect they would have a few karts. It is nothing to brag about, when I went to the IKF nationals when I was a kid there were over 500 karts. I get more MX bikes to 1 local race race than they do at 3 stars races. If you guys want to race with the so called big boys go do it. If you don’t like our program don’t race here.
January 4, 2006 at 4:57 am #52359Ken Arellano
ParticipantKart racing here in Colorado back in the late 90’s was growing, organized, had rules, Fun, and the entry fee was less. This was all (pre skusa era in co.) I could add more but, it is late and I think those points about cover it..
Have fun go fast!!
Ken Arellano
January 4, 2006 at 6:07 am #52360Garett Potter
ParticipantThere are 6-10 of us here in Utah considering running the CSC. First things first, not all of us go to church over here, so sunday is not a promblem for us, but saturday racing would be much easier for us for traveling.
As far as SKUSA goes I would like to run with a national sanctioning body for rules notoriety ect. and that is why we are considering CSC. I think the CSC operation will, and has run a great race with or with out the SKUSA banner, but I think that all the clubs need to step up and suport Tom (SKUSA) so together all of us can make this a succesful organization.
We have the best track in the country here in Utah, but the reason we want to travel to colorado is due to the operation, people and a national body with a rule book that is enforced which we have not had in four years. I thought CSC was great last year, everyone could use improvment, but it was defiinetly the best I had seen last year. We ran 26 races with four different sanctioning bodies.
Atmosphere, people and tracks you have it all, but you have to have a sactioning body or you are just a club race like ours, and people will be leaving like we are to join a national body.
Blink when we get to our first race I would like to meet you to see if you are realy an a–hole like your posts petray. Maybe you and Brian have some history that I am not aware of, but I have met Brian several times, he seems like a great guy. I am not sure why you want him to leave CSC and run with someone else. Maybe you guys are different than all the other club’s, and you can afford to lose racers????
January 5, 2006 at 3:32 am #52361Anonymous
InactiveGarett,
Got to thank the Utah Boys for your compliments on the CSC. Hope you come over for it this year.
As usual we are raising cane for the up coming season in Colorado. It is our annual affair as we cannot stand the off season :idn: :crazy
January 5, 2006 at 3:55 am #52362Ken Arellano
ParticipantHi Garett P,
Cool name, that’s my son’s name except spelled with two R’s. Maybe you might of seen him around he drives a yellow track magic #32D S1 last year and 80 junior prior to that. He ran fast lap at the 2004 Steamboat race and finnished third due to my last minute change.
Any way I think it’s great you are able to race many tracks not every one has that kind of time & $.., but you might be getting the wrong impression of Brad. Due to a employment change for me last year I had limited funds to spend on my sons racing. I have known Brad since 1998 when my son and I first got into the sport. Last year Brad helped me out by allowing me to work for him at the track. The extra money and employ prices on parts made it possible for my son to race the limited number of races we did race last year. This is just one of many good things Brad has done for people and the sport of karting. You realy don’t get to know people well untill you work with them or for them and I can tell you my experience last summer was very positive. I caution you very strongly on your judgement, because if you had a chance to witness some the customer service Brad provided to customers at no charge last summer, and years prior you might have a real guilt thing going on.Go Fast, have fun
and PEACE be with you..Ken Arellano
January 5, 2006 at 10:35 pm #52363Mike Edwards
ParticipantMr. Baltutis………Could you please post a list of classes that SKUSA will be supporting in 2006
Thanks
Mike EdwardsJanuary 6, 2006 at 12:23 am #52364Anonymous
InactiveThis is what i found as far as rules:
2006 Class Structures
Premier1/2 Age: 15+
Weight: ICC @ 395, Moto @ 385
Fuel : Maxima 927 – Moto: VP C12, ICC: MS98Formula V1/2
Age: 35+
Weight: ICC @ 415, Moto @ 405
Fuel: Maxima 927 – Moto: VP C12, ICC: MS98Formula Spec1/2
Age: 14+ (under 15 must have 2 years prior race experience and approval of Race Director)
Weight: 385
Fuel: Maxima 927 – VP MS98, Maxima 927TaG Senior
Age: 15+
Weight: Engine dependent – See Below
Fuel: Maxima 927 – VP MS98
Optional tire spec: MG Yellow, Bridgestone YGK, Bridgestone YHC, MoJo D1TaG Master
Age: 35+
Weight: Engine dependent – See Below
Fuel: Maxima 927 – VP MS98
Optional tire spec: MG Yellow, Bridgestone YGK, Bridgestone YHC, MoJo D1TaG Junior
Age: 12-15
Engine Restrictions: Per TaG USA rule book
Weight: 320lbs
Fuel: Maxima 927 – VP MS98
Optional tire spec: MG Yellow, Bridgestone YGK, Bridgestone YHC, MoJo D1This is where i found them and some more details: http://www.prokartchallenge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=475
January 6, 2006 at 12:24 am #52365Ben Schermerhorn
Participant:idn:
January 6, 2006 at 9:40 am #52366Mike Jansen
ParticipantBen,
Too much crack???
:hit
PM me and give me a progress report…
January 6, 2006 at 6:03 pm #52367J.B. Olmstead
ParticipantMany of you who seem to have strong opinions were not around here way back when SKUSA first got started with a great program , only to see them change rules to benefit one or two of their favorites — even just before the last race of the season! Now I am not suggesting that the new owners may or may not make the “knee-jerk” decisions the old management did in the past, but we have catered to SKUSA for several years , only to get more of the same type of thinking , so I vote for a wait and see position for 006 .
I did not glean any mention in Tom’s speech about how they intend to grow the sport ie: what about the entry level classes for shifter racers ???
I wonder how many modified 80 and 125cc shifter karts are sitting in garages all over the country gathering dust because not one of the Sanctioning Gods has taken the trouble to de-tune the thousands of moto motors for entry level classes!
The “stock Honda” sounded like a good idea —- untill they allowed the Pro’s to enter that class — it should be S-3 or an Entry Level class ! It amazes me how the sanctioning Gods can always take a good idea and royally screw up the whole concept every time !
De-tuning by the way can be done very cheaply by insisting on small carburator ,stock ignition and an exaust restrictor.
Whats my point , you say ? Simply put we need an inexpensive way to get newbies into our sport, both ways , when first buying a race kart , and having a market to sell the used ones.
If SKUSA does not want to accomodate the new racers , why should we accmodate them ??
Regards, J.B.
January 6, 2006 at 7:16 pm #52368Anonymous
InactiveColorado Karters,
I have been reading with interest your posts regarding the note I sent to Stacey Cook regarding Superkarts USA! The note was sent in order to update Stacey on what we hope to accomplish with the program if it is adopted in Colorado. It is by no means inclusive to everything we may be able to offer, and of course at this early stage it is simply a general overview of what is possible.
As enthusiasts of this great sport, we all know successful kart racers are developed over time. Setting up a kart for optimal performance is not something that happens overnight. Without hours of testing, tweaking and refining the set-up, you may as well as resign yourself to running in the middle of the pack. Simply put, seat time is key to any kart racers success over the course of a season. That is why I am always amused by the immediate criticism most new karting endeavors inevitably face in this small and close knit community of competitive kart racers.
As stated in the note, the SKUSA team is completely new- and is just getting up to speed. We?ve literally just hopped in the seat! Of course it will take time to create a program that helps promote the overall health of the sport- while at the same time addressing each region and the needs of their participants. As with anything new you have to start somewhere, and that is exactly what we are doing. Thankfully we are starting from a position of strength and with what we know best, and that is delivering the best racing experience possible?and we?ve done that with the ProKart Challenge.
I encourage you to examine ProKart Challenge in detail (http://www.prokartchallenge.com). Please read the numerous posts online about the series (http://www.ekartingnews.com), the many press items that have appeared in print, and speak or email with some of the competitors who participate in the series. I am confident you will come away impressed.
But remember, the ProKart Challenge business model works in the So Cal marketplace for a reason- because we examined what was happening there in late 2004 and responded to the need of the karters in the area. ProKart?s class structure is what works for us in California, not Colorado. It is going to take input and support from participants in Colorado in order to build a program that works. Each region will have it?s own class structure based on their specific needs, as would Colorado It?s as simple as that. We built Prokart Challenge from scratch into a powerhouse in a little over a year?can the same be said for SKUSA!? Only time will tell, but I am confident we?ll ultimately deliver.
The first race of the ProKart Challenge season takes place on tomorrow. With that under Tom Kutscher?s belt he?ll soon be able to move on the key issues such as class structure and rulebook decisions for the SKUSA regions? and as soon as the transfer of ownership is complete, you will see updates on the SKUSA website and the information pipeline will begin to flow. Thanks for your time and please feel free to email me at [email protected] with any additional questions.
Jim Baltutis
January 6, 2006 at 9:47 pm #52369Curt Kistler
ParticipantJim,
Thanks for the update on SKUSA. As a consumer I will wait to see what the regional requirements will be for whatever National races SKUSA will host. IE: Nations Cup or Supernationals. It would be nice to see our existing program out here accomodate the 15-20 Colorado Karters that went to the Supernationals, and the 80-90 Colorado Karters that raced at the Nations Cup the same conveyance of not traveling to qualify.If you have a feel for the way your two big races will go, please let me know so we can start planning road trips if necessary. Bottom line, we love the final blow out in Vegas every fall and will do whatever necessary to make it there again.
Good luck with your future plans,
Curt Kistler
January 6, 2006 at 11:56 pm #52370hotwheels1517
ParticipantAs stated in the note, the SKUSA team is completely new- and is just getting up to speed. We?ve literally just hopped in the seat! Of course it will take time to create a program that helps promote the overall health of the sport- while at the same time addressing each region and the needs of their participants. As with anything new you have to start somewhere, and that is exactly what we are doing. Thankfully we are starting from a position of strength and with what we know best, and that is delivering the best racing experience possible?and we?ve done that with the ProKart Challenge.
Mr Baltutis
If just getting up to speed, with all the prior go karting experience you have had I am personally optimistic. I would expect any national organization to do there homework and have a some direction in mind before courting 150 or so karters to support them. I am hoping we have a national sanctioning body step up to the plate fully that will benefit us as racers. I was happy with SKUSA last year. TELL US PLEASE WHAT ARE YOU OFFERING US IN RETURN OF US SUPPORTING YOU WITH OUR HARD EARNED MONEY?????Brian Moore
Father of Brandon #77 comer 80 and novice shifterP.S. Please don’t dodge the question with some sort of avoiding answer.
January 7, 2006 at 1:26 am #52371Greg Johnson
ParticipantSKUSA= WASTE OF MONEY= :bs:
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