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Just got back from the Stars event in Charlotte where I put my drivers #1 and #2 in Easykart (#1 and #3 on Saturday). Yeah me!!! 😆 Here’s my point in regards to Stars…you never knew what they were going to tech after each race. They kept it simple and checked flex length, tire doping, fuel additives, main jets, rear widths, front widths and spark plugs. The key to their tech is that they didn’t tech all of them after each race….they picked 2-3 items and teched those items on top 5 karts.
1) Pull airboxes
2) Tech Fuel
3) Check the damn tires (people were running B’s last year in Tag)
4) Check rear width
5) Check non-sealed motors for internal changes
6) Calibrate the damn scales!Why aren’t the airboxes being pulled after each race? I can tell you with great certainty that in Tag that is where you will find a nitros bottle. No I didn’t use one Mike, but have been at races that people have.
Ask King George to come to the race this weekend – he has a gauge for fuel.
At the Black Rock Race every body had to buy 5 gallons of fuel from a dealer similar to the BigT folks. It was part of the entry fee. Can someone like that be called to sell fuel and solve the the fuel doping problem. They would be gauranteed a certain amount of fuel purchased, so it would be worth their while. Everyone will be on the same fuels so the testers would work. 5 gallons is a littlle much for a race day, but this wil solve the fuel problem.
Bill
Why can’t you take sample and send it off for analysis if there is a protest. ? ?
Buying at each track is a great idea as long as the service is OK, a reasonable price is agreed and stuck to.
PS Mark what class made you ill ?pro 125, ask micheal mcgrath, doug schular as he stated, and i am sure others felt that what we felt
At the 2002 IKF 4-cycle nationals you showed up at the grid with a dry tank (they checked with a flashlight) and they put as much fuel in there as you want.
At Stars in 2003 and 2004 you unbolt your dry tank and leave it in Parc Ferme for the entire day. You fuel in Parc Ferme and immediately go to the grid, and unbolt the tank after each race.
For the CSC, how about a spec fuel bought at the track on race day, and then post race tech (immediate impound of top 5) with the Digitron?
Rod Whetstone
A spec fuel is fine by me. The ony thing I ask is that the fuel be appropreate for the engine. For example, the lower compresion of the ICC and Rotax engines require a lower octane rated fuel when compared to a full on moto or some of the other Tag engines.
I thought we were competing to the SKUSA rules, with the exception of the class addendum’s agreeded to by the racers at the annual IMI meeting last winter.
SKUSA rules 50.9.4 clearly states the fuel tech procedures. It should be a written protest + $150.00, or a track owner post race call. With all the press this week I would bet our motor nobody is showing up at Bandi with hot fuel. Especially in the 125 classes.
There should be a fuel test for everyone who is not sure how hot their fuel is prior to all our races, club or CSC. This is a track owner responsibility since there is no CSC appointed commitee.
Please fall back on the SKUSA rules when there is a question on motors, Blinks post alone that got this thread gioing is enough to make everyone take inventory on their program for the remainder of this season.
Way to shake em up Brad!On the subject of gas. What Is the CSC’s spec fuel and oil for each of the classes? What Is the spec oil to be run in the four stroke’s? If there is none how can you tech? Gee sounds like another good reason for the CSC to write the rules in Black and White. NOT GREY
Pardon me, but isn’t there is something oxymoronic about cheating to win a go kart race…………hello? :bs:
I think that anyone caught cheating should be required to give up all their winnings….. 😕
On a much more serious note, most fuel enhancers are highly carcinoginic. I’m more worried about my son and myself breathing that crap in than I am about who wins or loses the plastic trophies. I believe that if someone is suspected to be doping their fuel, a sample should be taken at the scales and sent to a laboratory for testing and if found to be positive, then the violator should be blacklisted from karting in Colorado…………period. If found to be clean, the protester should be responsible for the testing expenses.
I also believe that alleging that someone is using hot fuel without any hard evidence to the contrary is tantamount to the accusation that they are poisoning other competitors…….and if we don’t have any way of validating these claims, this puts a protester on very thin ice indeed.
Wayne
I certainly understand where your coming from. Most of the additives are very harmful to your health and while I could care less what a person exposes themselvs too, exposing your fellow racer shows a complete lack of respect for your fellow man. It is the later that drives me nuts.
As far as fuel protests, I do think that since its such a serious health hazard, I think the race officials should treat if very seriously and since it can have dramatic impacts on performance, I think the race officials should be teching for fuel or have a spec fuel program in place. I do not think that I or any other racer should need to file a protest to have fuel checked given the health danger fuel doping presents.
I was in one of the better fuel suppilers the other day and they were telling me about a new kart racer who was in looking to purchase isopropelene alcohol. It was a new karter and he had been told that “everyone is doing it” so he felt he needed to also. He was talked out of buying the additive but it only goes to show that there is a segment of our community that thinks its necessary to compete.
That’s for sure! I didn’t realize that there were health risks associated with running hot fuel, or I would have definetly BEN running it last year.
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