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Doug makes a good point about cutting practice down. But, I know Angie was trying to get people a lot of track time, which is commendable. I think the first single practice of 10 minutes was good.
In defense of the scoring, which I observed, Angie TOTALLY kick butt with what she had. She explained she was using the system set up at GJ not her own. In the future she said it going to be much easier to do that job. PS. I think Angie could use extra help in scoring during qualifying, any volunteers? She also said that she wanted to require transponders during practice to head off any non reading units. So she’ll need the help of racers to be on that in practice.
Also, for GJ specifically. I think the heats and possibly the mains could have been a little shorter. The heats went on forever.
But, its the old double edge sword. Track time equals day time. The more track time the longer the day will be.
It’s great that we all can creatively critique the program. The great thing is these are all very small issues. And when all your dealing with are small issues you know your nailing it pretty hard.
Small issues included(what race doesn’t have that) the event ran extremely well. Trust me I’ve seen bad ones.
Todd, thanks for the input.. Anything else you can think of please let me know as that is the only way we can fix problems.
It was really great to have both you and Joe out for the event, what a bad thing to have your insurance provider watching all the carnage ( Joe we have never had that happen in 2 1/2 years 😀 ) Thank God that none were seriously injured…
We really try to give all the drivers as much track time as possible which is what they ask for ( sorry Jim K 40 laps is a looong time he, he,) but to smooth things out even more and get people on the road sooner maybe instead of one 10 and one 5 minute practice per class we should either limit practice to one 10 minute session, or two 5 minute sessions on race day..
Thanks again for attending…
Stacey,
You have a great facility. I didn’t see anything that posed a serious safety hazard from a track design standpoint.One strange, but good, observation. A lot of people dropped wheels(letting off a cool puff of dust) but they were easily able to stay in control and get back on track. Often times the edge of the track has an edge and once you drop a wheel your hurting. So I thought it was cool that dropping a wheel didn’t pose a great issue.
Joe, was more concerned about the people being hurt. I’ve mentioned it many times that it must suck to see it being the insurance guy. He says, man I hate to see people get hurt, but theirs insurance and accidents are factored into the risk. Its all good(from the insurance aspect).
Constantly changing, always improving…
And on that note I have to say this:
Drivers meetings are supposed to be short, sweet and to the point. Period. I was guilty of not showing up on time for the meeting for the same reason as last year. My time is VALUABLE. If you say you’re going to start it at 10 then follow up on your words. I sat in my pits and changed my tires while the meeting was supposed to start. How many others felt that way?
And another thing. Short, sweet and to the point is just that. I don’t want to hear rambling in a meeting that should have been over in 15 minutes (valuable track time). Make your point and move on, next issue…
Finally, I realize quite a few people didn’t have the ability at this race to practice on the saturday due to proms and babies being born but I think that one practice session on race morning is enough or make the second one 5 minutes (or the first one shorter and the second one the standard 10)
We have room to improve, I think we’re doing a great job, now keep constantly looking for improvements!
I am looking forward to those 20 lap mains!
:cheers:
Mike,
Did you mean the drivers meeting last weekend? I believe we had the drivers meeting at the exact time we had on the schedule… and were about 10 minutes off until the last big crash… we were scheduled to end at 5:45 but my understanding was that the Last main ended at 6:08 I hope Im correct on the times because I was at the Hospital with my daughter… thanks for your input.
Stacey,
Let me clarify…
Races being stopped by red flags and the associated delays are understandable. I think you all did a FANTASTIC job of getting us out when you did! I thought we’d be done a heck of a lot later than when we did to be blunt and I was fine with that since what happened was unaviodable. (By the way, we know how Duff is you want to fill us in on your emergency excursion? :idn: )
It just irks me when I hear the constant droning of “there’s a drivers meeting” and then we wait till the slow few come slumbering up, then ask what they missed :bang That is disrespectful of your time, mine and everyone else’s.
Again, your “boyz and girlz” did a great job getting everyone asembled, gridded and gone. I just hope that the other tracks can follow your example! And the sammys :burger from the BEAR ROCK CAFE were second to none.
Mike,
thanks for clarifying things, I was totally stressed that day with all the chaos and with trying to stay on schedule, we will adjust things for the next event such as seperating the Tag Snr/Masters :cheers: ( if the #s are the same)
We just want to have a safe, fun, organized event so all feedback both good and bad is always welcome…
Sorry for the delay in response:
Todd, if you have the emails you sent me after I sent you back the mods to the engine rules will you please forward those to me at [email protected].
Brad, EXACTLY my point, just look at what one sole kart did at that race and now picture a ?group? of them racing through a slower ?group? of karts. As Jeff so eloquently stated and I am sorry this didn’t come through my posting that I have never been for these classes running together, but even to this date and all of our suggestions, I have not heard CSC say they are going to change this or any other aspect of this “class,” so I was hoping to figure out the best way to run them together. Brad on a serious note, I look forward in seeing you and your family at Bandimere May 8th.
There is good news and bad news. Good news is… we won’t see this problem again. The bad news is….the Animal class is done for the CSC. With only two registered, there is no reason to continue it. Both of those registered have offered, and will be switching to Comer 80s. This means that there won’t be any Junior 1 Animals running at Action Karting on May 8th. As for the Mini Max on the track with the Comer 80s, I don’t think we will be seeing that again, either.
Angie
The Animal class is dead…. A moment of silence please…. 😥
Ok, I think you would have seen at least 6 Animals at both Bandimere and more for sure at the IMI races, but I understand the need to register.
A question for Angie and Brad Linkus:
1. What happens when CSC comes to IMI, will the Animals be allowed to race or should we just stay home??
2. Since there are only two registered in the S3 is that class killed too? (I have no dog in that fight but just want to see if CSC has ?even standards.?)
Thanks
If your in the club points you’ll still race and have a class for animals
The Junior 1 Four Cycles will run at IMI on CSC dates, as those double as club races, too. Also the Sr 4 Cycle – Briggs Modified folks will be there.
Don, we were going to leave the class, as we figured that the turnout would be good at IMI and AK. However, with the two registered ready to switch classes, there wasn’t much choice.
As for the S3, that is a different story as that class easily runs well with other classes on the track, so will never require its own track time AND it is expected to be growing in numbers. It is also a national SKUSA class.
thanks,
AngieI wouldn’t be too silent about the animal being claimed as dead.
Shure it was never alive to anyone in SKUSA just like S-1/2/3 isn’t alive in WKA or IKF races. CSC is just tring to tighten up the fragmintation that karting has. They can only base there decisions on participation, which is good. But obviously the average grass roots racer of industrial motors doesn’t want more orginization at higher exspences.
The time is ripe for a not so orginized OHV series. The problem is no shops or tracks around here want to cater to racers that have no budget to spend on racing. Hummm sounds like a loosing business plan I would jump into.I will bet today 10 times more animal motors for karters are sold to the public across the USA then all the TAG motors combined. OK maybe just 5 times the amount. 😆
The animal/WF/F200 classes also are National Classes expecting growth, just not in the Nation of Colorado. I can only hope our sport grows here in our little nation to the point that we have too many series with lots of racers wanting to race. There is enough people in this state to have booth yacht and flat bottom racing clubs. The flatbottom racers just need to find the right pond to gather around.My opinions are based from a lack of really knowing anything about what is best for me, let alone what would be best for you.
I want ride on the yacht, but I hope they don’t drain the pond while I’m gone.
@Freezeman wrote:
The problem is no shops or tracks around here want to cater to racers that have no budget to spend on racing. Hummm sounds like a loosing business plan I would jump into.
Now that’s funny! 😀
Thanks, Rod; your wit and wisdom just made my day!
Freezeman hit it perfectly. Keep in mind that SKUSA’s strategy is to be the premier regional racing organization. They are counting on a base of Briggs, KT100, and cheap-2nd-hand-kart local racers to draw from. The problem we have is that our club efforts are so fragmented, that the CSC’s direction tends to flow down to the clubs, not the other way around. If most/all of the tracks ran WKA/IKF/KART with similar rules (like other regions), we’d have more stability in classes that SKUSA isn’t interested in. I don’t think Joe Janowski understood the implications of this before coming out to GJMS.
Angie, can we have a special award for best forum poster at the banquet? I can think of a few candidates already…..
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