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Curt Kistler.
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- July 9, 2006 at 2:27 pm #54284
Rodney Ebersole
ParticipantWhat about working on the fuel deal. Tell me what are you guys tring to accomplish by pumping $8.95 91 octain fuel at sign up?
Does it eliminate fuel tech?
Does it help the racers budget?
CSC had 110 racers X 8.95 X 4 gallon minimum= $4000.00
What is the $2600.00 profit per race doing?
The CSC doesn’t race, has no tracks to maintain, I think they even use the tracks trophies and workers to put on the races.Lord I apoligize to all that do receive compensation for the work that they do. But what happened to those large checks we used to see on the podiums? Heck with that, do the kid karts still pay the same as the adult classes? OK while I have my whine and cheese out, what is the differance between Novice and Pro shifter besides which podium you go up to when your fast?
These are just some thoughts rolling through my mind which may be totally wrong, if I knew how to do things right I’d be racing.
July 9, 2006 at 3:02 pm #54285Angie MacEwen
ParticipantFreeze,
The spec fuel idea was totally about controlling the fuel. It is very hard to tech fuel without spec fuel and oil. The price certainly has gone up. GJMS is the only track where you HAVE to get the fuel from them, otherwise you can buy the VP fuel wherever you want. None of that profit (don’t know how much profit there is in the fuel) goes to the CSC, it goes to the tracks.
The CSC gets $10 per entry per race to put toward the year end banquet and awards, etc. The CSC has not really given out any big money on the podium, except for individual events, like Steamboat. That money was obtained by the race promotor (Byron), from extra sponsors, the Steamboat Chamber of Commerce, and so on.Kid Karts do pay the same as everyone else, and they get basically the same amount of track time, same awards, and so on. The Novice125 Shifter class and Pro class deal is an issue. Anyone that gets three or more podiums in the Novice 125 class this year, cannot be Novice next year – other than that, there really isn’t any difference. Should there be a Pro class and a Novice class next year?
And Hotwheels. There has already been talk about the Junior 1 issue, and the classes are going to be adjusted. The rulebooks were out late this year, but were printed and available at the races. And at least there were some rules available from downloads until the books were complete.
July 9, 2006 at 3:34 pm #54286Rodney Ebersole
ParticipantThanks Angie, I’ll shut up and go back to drinking my Beer and post back when I get a nother stupid idea in my head.
July 9, 2006 at 3:39 pm #54287Angie MacEwen
ParticipantFreeze, glad to have you back. No need to keep quiet. Give us some more ideas for next year. Maybe you should start that cryo machine up and put an ad in the directory I am working on!
July 9, 2006 at 4:34 pm #54288Anonymous
InactiveNo Novics next year!!! WHY??? That does not seem like a good idea to me. Their are 2 or 3 Novice racers that do not belong in the Novice class. They are running very close to the pro times. The rest of us are not and are learning a ton from racing in the Novice class. I think the jump from Novice to Pro is to much, their should be a Semi Pro class to fill in the middle. I know, we dont have time or space for another class. To get rid of the Novice class you are running away all the new racers.
Just my thoughts, another rainy day to drink and work on the chassis!!
July 9, 2006 at 9:59 pm #54289Anonymous
InactiveOkay my 2 cents worth for next yr:
*Rules: rule book what rule book; I have not seen one this yr, except on line. Rules out early next yr.
*One sanctioning body
*Reduce classes-too many; days too long; how_why the heck are there 2 kid kart clases-rediculous; we use to run more classes together by stagering the starts, it is time to go back to that in the lower clases
*CSC Races: GJ, IMI, The Track, CRE, Greeley and another date for a total of 6 races and one drop. Sorry JB but Action Track needs much work-too rough-needs total repaving-better run offs. It is great for a rental track but not for high performance karts-my opinion.
*Prizes: Keep trophies/plaques for kids and start doing “Track Bucks”, redeemable at track stores plus name plate finishing positions. This is a great way to reduce karting costs for us racers.
*CSC committe to include: Racers rep (2-3), track owners, shop owners (2-3) instead of track owners running the whole show. Actually one track owner runs the whole show, no matter what it looks like.
*Club races: East slope tracks (IMI, CRE, and The Track) start running a traveling club racing series between these tracks. This will reduce the total amount of races and race conflicts. Less races results in more karts. This 30-45 club kart races are plain ridiculous for the track owners and for the racers.
*CRE must come into the group. It is too good of a track not to be included. It is time you track owners swallow your pride, stop bickering, kiss and make up and work togther. Forget the past and look to the future or else there will be no future.
July 9, 2006 at 11:23 pm #54290Eddy Wyatt
ParticipantRich
Although I am new to Colorado karting and a rookie Rotax racer, I agree with all points you suggest for the 2007 race season.
Respectfully
Eddy WyattJuly 10, 2006 at 2:18 am #54291Curt Kistler
ParticipantJust got home from SUNNY Santa Maria and our first experience with the Pro Kart Challenge. Sorry to see the weather when we arrived at DIA.
First off we all had a great time and met some really cool racers at a very cool facility. The track was awsome, very grippy and technical. The weather was sunny and in the high 70’s every day, and in the 50’s at night making it very easy to sleep with the window open and no hotel air conditioning unit running all night.
The PKC drew over 100 entries divided into 6 classes. We were able to tune all day Friday wearing our driver completely out. Saturday had (2) 10 min. practice sessions, (1) 15 min qualifier, (2) 10 lap heat races and (1) 20 lap main. We were done at 3:30 totally exhausted and stoked about the day. Matt got a podium with a strong 3rd behind Nick Halen and another West Coast shoe. The trophy is made from marble and silver with a custom engraved plaque customized for the event.Having said all that, and as many of you know I could have said much more, this was truley a fine karting weekend. There is no reason Colorado could not run a series like this. The problem here is we have way too many classes, too many small classes, and classes that do not belong at a regional level. Until the classes are cut down to 5-6 we will continue to experience long days. 9 races is way too many. I like the post of 5 with no drops. Like Bill said, if you are not willing to make room in your busy schedule for 5 race weekends then perhaps your priorities are not in line with karting. If you are out for a championship then 5 races is very managable.
The Friday/Saturday schedule allowed us all to return home on Sunday to rest up for work on Monday.Just some thought’s from another racing family. I would be happy to answer any questions if you have any.
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