Rotax break-in

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  • #41600
    Jon Romenesko
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    I stuck our Rotax at Bandi at the last race, and it’s fresh back from Accelleration Karting and ready to be broken in for The Track race! Does anyone have any specific tips on breaking-in the Rotax? Or should I just follow the manual’s instructions of the 2-15 minute sesstions?

    #54377
    Doug Welch
    Participant

    Follow the manual to the letter.

    #54378
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I go even farther than what the manual says:

    I use castor 927 oil only at 32:1

    20 mins at 2,500 rpm on the track
    cool to ambient temp

    20 mins at 5,000 rpm on the track
    cool to ambient

    20 mins at 8,000 rpm on track
    cool to ambient.

    20 mins at 10,500 rpm on track
    cool to ambient

    all of the above you push the gas until you reach your rpm limit for that test then let completly off the gas so the repm drop ~1,000 rpm below your setting and then back on it again–yes I do this

    15 mins at race conditions on track

    This is a good 4-6 hr break-in proceedure; use ~2-3 gals gas; and run rich jet.

    I have never stuck a motor and never had any problems doing it this way. Over kill maybe, but I don’t want the cost of a stuck motor!!!!!!!

    #54379
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hey Jansen,

    You want to take this one?

    #54380
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Okay now what did I say that was wrong!

    #54381
    Rodney Ebersole
    Participant

    http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
    This link is a good read about break in and ring seal.
    Why is it that a rotax has to be broken in so carefully?
    Are the sealors/builders using too tight of piston clearance, or small ring gap? I’m sorry but if a motor is built well for racing there shouldn’t be nothing to break in, other than getting some good cylinder pressure to make the rings seat. The rings wont seat untill you get good heat and pressure.
    I am here to learn too. In the past I have even made and used electric break in stands. The only advantage I could find is that you could tighten up the cylinder clearance and ring gap. Even then good ring seal didn’t happen untill combustion pressure/heat is experianced by the top ring.
    O well that was mostly 4 cycle stuff, I have stuck a couple of 2 strokes on my first outing with them from running them too lean and building it too tight.

    #54382
    Mike Jansen
    Participant

    Since I destroyed a lower rod needle bearing after break in (and you’re right it’s not fun $$$) I would suggest following a few tips stated.

    1) use an old plug and run the mixture rich. The plug’s junk afterwards but you’ll not stick it
    2) Don’t use a 98 needle

    3 heat cycles is enough as long as you let it cool for a while and ambient isn’t necessary just 10 minutes between.

    I will say that Welch and Vito haven’t blown an engine and neither did I so do it right and it’ll treat you right too. I can’t emphasize being rich enough. It’ll only foul the plug. Once it’s broke in you can let the engine clean itself!

    #54383
    Jon Romenesko
    Participant

    @Mike Jansen wrote:

    2) Don’t use a 98 needle

    So, in other words, use the K27 needle?

    #54384
    Mike Jansen
    Participant

    That’s the stock one and put the clip position down to three, max. Again, bogs are not harmful but lean k-blammos are.

    And please, check the fetzer valve and make sure it’s inserted correctly. It’s all about ball bearings nowadays…. 8)

    #54385
    Jon Romenesko
    Participant

    The Fetzer valve is fantastic. Those Accelleration karting guys know their Fetzer valves & ball bearings like none other. 8)

    #54386
    Mike Jansen
    Participant

    I keep telling Rich to watch his Fetzer valve but he’s not listening. Perhaps one day he’ll clean it and all will be well with him! 8)

    Break it in right and you’ll have a happy rotax. Good luck!

    #54387
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    My Fetzer valve is always clean! It is the jerk behind the valve that is the problem learning this sport.

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