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- July 11, 2006 at 10:37 pm #41600
Jon Romenesko
ParticipantI stuck our Rotax at Bandi at the last race, and it’s fresh back from Accelleration Karting and ready to be broken in for The Track race! Does anyone have any specific tips on breaking-in the Rotax? Or should I just follow the manual’s instructions of the 2-15 minute sesstions?
July 11, 2006 at 10:43 pm #54377Doug Welch
ParticipantFollow the manual to the letter.
July 11, 2006 at 10:54 pm #54378Anonymous
InactiveI go even farther than what the manual says:
I use castor 927 oil only at 32:1
20 mins at 2,500 rpm on the track
cool to ambient temp20 mins at 5,000 rpm on the track
cool to ambient20 mins at 8,000 rpm on track
cool to ambient.20 mins at 10,500 rpm on track
cool to ambientall of the above you push the gas until you reach your rpm limit for that test then let completly off the gas so the repm drop ~1,000 rpm below your setting and then back on it again–yes I do this
15 mins at race conditions on track
This is a good 4-6 hr break-in proceedure; use ~2-3 gals gas; and run rich jet.
I have never stuck a motor and never had any problems doing it this way. Over kill maybe, but I don’t want the cost of a stuck motor!!!!!!!
July 12, 2006 at 1:44 am #54379Anonymous
InactiveHey Jansen,
You want to take this one?
July 12, 2006 at 12:54 pm #54380Anonymous
InactiveOkay now what did I say that was wrong!
July 12, 2006 at 1:09 pm #54381Rodney Ebersole
Participanthttp://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
This link is a good read about break in and ring seal.
Why is it that a rotax has to be broken in so carefully?
Are the sealors/builders using too tight of piston clearance, or small ring gap? I’m sorry but if a motor is built well for racing there shouldn’t be nothing to break in, other than getting some good cylinder pressure to make the rings seat. The rings wont seat untill you get good heat and pressure.
I am here to learn too. In the past I have even made and used electric break in stands. The only advantage I could find is that you could tighten up the cylinder clearance and ring gap. Even then good ring seal didn’t happen untill combustion pressure/heat is experianced by the top ring.
O well that was mostly 4 cycle stuff, I have stuck a couple of 2 strokes on my first outing with them from running them too lean and building it too tight.July 12, 2006 at 3:48 pm #54382Mike Jansen
ParticipantSince I destroyed a lower rod needle bearing after break in (and you’re right it’s not fun $$$) I would suggest following a few tips stated.
1) use an old plug and run the mixture rich. The plug’s junk afterwards but you’ll not stick it
2) Don’t use a 98 needle3 heat cycles is enough as long as you let it cool for a while and ambient isn’t necessary just 10 minutes between.
I will say that Welch and Vito haven’t blown an engine and neither did I so do it right and it’ll treat you right too. I can’t emphasize being rich enough. It’ll only foul the plug. Once it’s broke in you can let the engine clean itself!
July 12, 2006 at 7:56 pm #54383Jon Romenesko
Participant@Mike Jansen wrote:
2) Don’t use a 98 needle
So, in other words, use the K27 needle?
July 12, 2006 at 11:14 pm #54384Mike Jansen
ParticipantThat’s the stock one and put the clip position down to three, max. Again, bogs are not harmful but lean k-blammos are.
And please, check the fetzer valve and make sure it’s inserted correctly. It’s all about ball bearings nowadays…. 8)
July 13, 2006 at 6:29 am #54385Jon Romenesko
ParticipantThe Fetzer valve is fantastic. Those Accelleration karting guys know their Fetzer valves & ball bearings like none other. 8)
July 13, 2006 at 2:54 pm #54386Mike Jansen
ParticipantI keep telling Rich to watch his Fetzer valve but he’s not listening. Perhaps one day he’ll clean it and all will be well with him! 8)
Break it in right and you’ll have a happy rotax. Good luck!
July 13, 2006 at 8:21 pm #54387Anonymous
InactiveMy Fetzer valve is always clean! It is the jerk behind the valve that is the problem learning this sport.
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