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- January 30, 2006 at 5:12 am #52634
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InactiveScott,
You actually agree with my post of yesterday.
Our plans/visions are close, with street races a great idea. Street races take a lot of coordination/logistics/supervision and manpower.
Leadership, vision and enthusiasm is not apparent now. we need new blood.
I have to agree that we are at the crossroads. Do we unite, pitch in and drive Colorado Karting to the next level or will we sit back and let a few run the show and costs will rise?
Scott, introduce yourself to me next time. I don’t think we ever met.
January 30, 2006 at 5:30 am #52635swhannum
ParticipantRich,
Your right about street races, they are very dificult without big help from the city where they are held and that’s why the park at Greeley and other park / fairgrounds type venues could work so well. Thanks for you comments.Scott
January 30, 2006 at 3:27 pm #52636Mike Jansen
ParticipantScot,
Good post with a lot of insight and a good presentation.
You guys are forgetting one thing and that is this: If you think these elected officials are tired and we need new blood go for it. But realize that these positions are pretty much done on a volunteer basis. Sure there’s a LITTLE bit of dough being thrown around but be realistic, it’s not enough to make anyone’s house payment or such. Plus I think all these people have “other jobs” that ensure that they can do this. I for one want to thank the powers to be. Do we need to fine tune it? Absolutely! But you don’t clean house when you’ve got a few adjustments needed. The Broncos lost in the playoffs. I doubt they’ll clean house just because they didn’t play or win the Super Bowl.
:cheers:
Also: people are not perfect and that’s the beauty of people. Strive for perfection. Okay, so there have been some mistakes that have been made and hopefully they (and we) will learn from them. Think of what we had and where we were 3 years ago. Are we not better than we were then?
January 30, 2006 at 4:41 pm #52637Rodney Ebersole
ParticipantThe fewture is once again here, I am sitting here looking just like I have had to for 24 other years to choose the class of kart racing that may work for me. I can’t beleave we have a sign up sheet to the CSC with a signiture required to follow the rules yet no rules to follow.
Define the sport of karting.
Define what the grass roots of the sport are that we are promoting.
It just seems to me that we are too concerned with promoting where we race rather than promoting what we race.January 31, 2006 at 6:33 am #52638swhannum
ParticipantMike,
Good reply! Your right on so let me clarify my general thought. This approuch does not necessarily mean to clean house. It “could” basically be done using the same people we have doing a good job now, its just that the way in which its organized, or disorganized leaves all of these good people with no clear direction or leadership. There are no clear rolls and responsabilities. As I mentioned I think in my original post, what if I had a company that was interested in being involved promotionaly or even as a series sponsor? Who do they talk to, who has the authority to negotiate on behalf of the series and act in their and the sports best interest? There was no shortage of compliments or appreciation regarding our current officials in my original post and they know how I feel about them, (very possitive). The point is that we are not as people challenged as we are organizationally challenged. By organization I don’t mean are our pencils all in the right bin but organization as a system. We have alot of good people but look at the system we give them to work with. Its as if thier hands are tied. I’m so glad you made your point because it gave me an opportunity to be more specific regarding mine. Thank you Mike!Scott Hannum
January 31, 2006 at 3:40 pm #52639Tom Dennin
ParticipantI want to preface what I am going to write with the following:
Scott your enthusiasm is great
Mike, the Broncos should clean house starting with “the Genius” and “the Snake.” I have thought this Ever since Mike S. decided to bring on a proven inept NFL QB and trade Portis for Bailey in an attempt to disguise his lack of leadership with a young, up and coming star in the case of Portis. All I can say about Jake is that a QB is not someone who should “just makes sure he doesn’t lose the game with his poor play” as so many had said this year. A QB wins games and shoulders the burden. Lastley about the Broncos which I have supported since I think I was born, not only could they not beat the Steelers do any of you really think that they could have beaten the Colts?
Now to karting!
It always seems odd to me that so much wasted energy is put into the topics of what rules, what classes, the whole CRE and the CSC debate, agendas for the IMI yearly meeting, the cost of the membership $50 or $75 or $100, and how many races and where they are going to be held.
The one common factor is this, if you do not own a track you are simply one of the herd (myself included) waiting for direction. Does anyone outside of the choosen four (Brad, JB, Stacey, and Jim) really think they have any say. I have no resentment toward the four track owners they have invested lots of money and should reap the rewards.
In no specific order:
Example #1: The rules that will be in place for the ’06 CSC are being rewritten by guess who, a track owner. Good, bad, or otherwise do you really think Jim would include any clause or sub clause that would negatively impact his track? I for one do not care who writes the rules. I will accept them or play elsewhere.
Example #2: The number of races went from 7 with one drop to 9 with 2 drops. Where was the vote for this?? From what I can tell there wasn’t one. A new track owner came into the mix and two more races were added. I can not even contimplate why people are even surprised by this. The writing was on the wall last year. The only question was whether or not “The Track” was going to be built. If anyone has a problem with the 9 races don’t run for points and pick which ones you want to race. Enjoy yourself and don’t stress take it from me it is alot funner! Here is a good example of this, at the Steamboat race last fall I was given something like a $50 penalty for two missing lock nuts on weight that was on my seat. Since I wasn’t running for points and the racing was over I simply chose not to pay this and get a DQ. It did not seem to register to Dennis that I had my fun and in the end points for where I finished made no difference at all.
Example #3: The cost of the membership for the CSC was increased by $25 and no real reasoning for this was ever given. From what I can tell, it was made to seem as the membership was actually lowered but since SKUSA is no longer where is the extra money going. We already have a set of rules we paid for last year and are being re-written. Hopefully, the increase goes toward something that will benifit the CSC.
Last little tidbit and then I must go to work. Do not forget that the track owners rebuttal to all of this will come into play sometime and here it is. The track owners make more money with rental karts than on any given race day. If this is true, why increase the number of CSC races?
Tom
January 31, 2006 at 4:55 pm #52640Mike Jansen
ParticipantScott, Thanks for the clarification and (still) good points. Tom’s right, Enthusiasm is a GREAT thing.
Tom, Before I get to the karting issue let me say this: Being from Las Vegas with no pro sports I grew up a UNLV Rebel, A’s and a RAIDER fan. Now that I live in Colorado (and Al Davis is a bigger knucklehead than ever as he’s gotten older) I am a Bronco fan (except when they play the Raiders 8) ). If they get T.O. (which in swahili translates to Teammate Cancer of the terminal kind) then the Broncos deserve whatever happens when he blows up and calls Jake gay or any other teammate a loser etc etc…
You realize what makes any motor sport successful? It has a strong DICTATOR, period. You might all biaaatch and complain about NASCRUP or F1 but they are where they are by having a STRONG central figure who says “its my way or the highway” From that point on you have boundaries and boundaries are always good. It’s not a popularity contest it’s a contest to put money in the pockets of the owners and players (read, track operators) and better the sport. You have a complaint? Get your DEPENDS and P and moan in it. Vision and a strong central character is when karting becomes what it can be. The Greeley race as much as I hate to admit will be a good thing for Colorado karting and yes, the boyz and girlz from GJ and surrounding areas are getting screwed. But, deal with it make a decision to play and move forward.
Am I wrong? Let me know. Sitting here posturing is just that. All show and no go…
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