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- December 15, 2003 at 3:49 am #40123
Marc Elliott
ParticipantSorry for the constant posts, but who out here would be interested (seriously interested enough to purchase and run devotly) in an ICA class, 30+HP 20kRPM, i was thinking, that if there is enough interest, could there be a class, that is a class i would rather run than anything else, i have talked to a few others who might be interested, this would be a class, that if there was enough competition, could be the most exciting class of the weekend.
December 15, 2003 at 4:30 am #45551Anonymous
InactiveHey Marc,
I seriously considered running ICA last year but gave up on it early on due to the lack of intrest from the local shops. JB gave me a bit of a screwy look for my thought, McGrath was new and seemed to be more shifter friendly due to the market and as far as I know that was the stance of most kart shops in the region. It didn’t leave me with a real enthusiastic outlook on the growth of the class. So I went ICC. In a perfect world I would run both but…..
December 15, 2003 at 5:24 am #45552Marc Elliott
Participanti suppose there is 2 of us now, lol
December 16, 2003 at 3:17 am #45553Anonymous
InactiveI would run one with you, would be fun
December 16, 2003 at 4:50 am #45554Marc Elliott
Participantwith aj now, we could rally some more interest, and create a bitchen class. my dream one day may be a reality
December 16, 2003 at 4:52 am #45555Anonymous
InactiveI would be in if I could come up with some green for a motor, I was very impressed with the performance of the ICA when I first saw them at the CRE Stars race.
December 16, 2003 at 2:40 pm #45556Ben Schermerhorn
Participanthmmmmm Sounds fun, but isn’t that class gonna cost some more frogskins?
December 16, 2003 at 11:47 pm #45557Mitch Wright
ParticipantI would put a hot shoe in one of my karts if we had a well supported ICA program. I am too old and fat to drive one myself. Had a chance to drive a Maxer powered ICA kart at the beinging of the year, what a blast.
December 17, 2003 at 12:12 am #45558Curt Kistler
ParticipantWe tested in one just for grins. You can count on two motors for the initial start up, some teams come to race day with four motors per kart at the STARS level. A complete rebuild after 30 minutes of hard running. Our guess was in the ballpark of $200.00 per rebuild. Got me thinking shifters was more affordable than I thought.
The class itself is the most exciting we have ever wittnessed. Most of the talent in the class comes from European drivers, or teams with more money to spend than the average bear. If you want to learn how to drive, the ICA class is the way to go. One mistake on track and you loose 3-5 positions. Making up that many positions has got to be tough. Get enough interest sparked and we would consider the class at a local level. Try to get the class on race day to a one motor event, IE: 5 minute qualifier, 10 lap semi and 15 lap main might do it. They ran a 25 lap main at Moran and those poor motors were spent.
So far we may have a 4 car field at best. Keep up the thread and lets see where it goes.
Curt KistlerDecember 17, 2003 at 1:25 am #45559Anonymous
InactiveHey Mitch,
I’m a hot shoe. 8) Where’s the kart? Just point the way and we’ll give AJ a run for his money. 😈
December 17, 2003 at 1:55 am #45560Marc Elliott
Participanti could use the “support” from mitch. As for curts statment, ya 3 motors, 2 minimum, the harder you push it and the more power and revs to it, the more it will kaboom. But it could out do the shifter classes interms of action.
December 17, 2003 at 6:52 pm #45561Mitch Wright
ParticipantWere is the class and racers to run in it? If there was/is ICA I would change over one of my karts and test some young drivers.
I put Collin in my ICC kart for the CRE Stars race.December 18, 2003 at 1:22 am #45562Anonymous
InactiveWhile ICA may be great class for a serious up and comming racers (read – who competes nationally). It seems to me that most of us here in Colorado want more good local racing and less expense.
Since many of us have been working to improve the racing here in Colorado by reducing the number of classes, adding an expensive class (relative to TAG) for adults to run locally doesn’t seem to make much sense. The only advantage ICA has over TAG for a local racer is the 320 pound weight. If we really have 15 or so people who fall into this category, let’s just add a TAG Extra Light class and delete either the TAG USA Light (365-395lbs) or the TAG USA Masters (400 – 430 lbs). If and when we get 45 TAG racers we could have all three classes.
Any local folks who buy ICA to run nationally can always run our local events for fun with the 125 shifters. They are only about 1 to 1.5 seconds off that pace.
Rod Whetstone
December 20, 2003 at 3:11 am #45563Marc Elliott
ParticipantRod, the problem of adding all these TaG classes is that there are only enough for 2, possibly 3 classes, and an ICA is just too fast for tag extra light, if you could achieve 15 ICA, that would call for its own race class. The ICA have easilly 5+ hp then a TaG, plus they do not have onboard starters, and certainly not low maintanance, probably a piston every other time its driven. If there is a class this year (highly doubtfull) or next year (distinct possibility) then i would do it for sure. If we wanted to run with the shifters, most would out run the novices, only due to the stock power of some novices, and the inexperiance for many, but how would you safely start direct drives with shifters. Sure you could have a stagger, but what about a pileup before the ICA’s come around. IF it is out here, it would be a class unto itself becuase they are just to differant then any other motor out here.
December 20, 2003 at 4:23 am #45564Doug Welch
ParticipantNot to pop your bubble Marc, but I think there is virtually no chance of a significant ICA class in Colorado within my lifetime. It is a very expensive class to run in its current form. More than a shifter if you can believe that. However, there is talk from over the pond about putting rev limiters on them as the 20 grand rpm is what kills them. But it could be a complete waste of money as CIK has dictated that by 2006, ICA will be 4 cycle. Indeed, that will be the start of a complete faze in of 4 cycle engines. You need to read the headline story on ekarting about it.
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