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- October 14, 2013 at 11:20 pm #44171JMacLeodParticipant
So we have a couple kid karts here then there is the CJKC and maybe a couple kids at The Track. My question is why don’t we run a Baby Rok at SKUSA events for a kid kart class? The baby Rok is a Mini Rok with the exhaust restriction and a different exhaust pipe. By running this class we could introduce kids into karting and give the parents a motor they can run for 6-7 years just change the exhaust. Unlike the Rotax that is similar for Micro to Mini, you still have to send off the motor off to have any work done and then sealed. With Mini Rok you can do it your self. Unlike the Briggs you don’t have to throw the bottom end out after so many hours. This gives kids an opportunity to experience more track and more competition. It would also give kids a option to run national events which at this point the four stroke doesn’t really offer. I know Vortex is working with people to grow the series so maybe it could be an option? So maybe we could start a discussion and get some input and views of others. ❓
October 17, 2013 at 5:35 am #66746Ben SchermerhornParticipantwhy not Comer?
October 18, 2013 at 12:51 am #66747Stan BryniarskiParticipantBen, maybe you can help all of us.
Speaking as a Grandpa and not a promoter, I need a simple, cost effective path to start out my grandson.
No, I won’t buy new, as all know that the Kid kart is like everything else when it comes to kids that age, they out grow it before it is used up and all the used packages out there already have Comers on them.
Why the comer? Can I get more years racing up the ladder if I were to bite the bullet and buy the Mini ROK and restrict it down now, or is there a way for the comer to continue into the cadet level?
How many years can a Dad or GrandPa get out of the Comer vs the ROK. (If the ROK was presented in the Kid Kart format) is the question. Who, what orgs are supporting the Comer out there and how many years can a krater run the motor before he out grows it? Of course I am familiar with the Mini ROK Cadet class, but it sure would be nice to get more years out of the total package, kart and motor, before they out grow both.
Not suckering anybody in but, I need this information as well as all the other Dads, GrandPa’s who are getting the little Karters off the ground.
What IS the best bank for the buck if we are to continue up the ladder?Thanks!
Stan
October 18, 2013 at 1:01 am #66748Greg WelchParticipantThe problem with any engine other than a Honda GX35 and a C51 Comer is that they don’t come on new karts from the factories, and we can only buy kid karts complete with engines. This means for any new karts sold someone will end up with an extra engine somewhere. Hopefully we will see the growth so that there is not a limitless supply of used kid karts available. Adding another class is a negative in my book.
October 18, 2013 at 2:05 am #66749stacey cookParticipantThe Honda motor is pretty slick. We tested one on a rental kart for a year and it was great! CRG does sell the kid kart without a motor..
October 18, 2013 at 1:43 pm #66750Greg WelchParticipant@stacey cook wrote:
CRG does sell the kid kart without a motor..
Sweet! I knew someone had too. Hopefully all the CJKC people know that as I was having this same discussion with one of their members last week.
Pretty rad that Tony Kart, the guys that make the RoK engine, don’t sell the kid kart with it!
October 19, 2013 at 1:41 pm #66751Jesse SeigelParticipantSo heres my take on this. My company has been the kid kart sponser at The Track at Centenial for the last two years. The first year I sponsered there was three full time kids and two part timers. Two of those kids have now moved into micro max. This last year again three full timers at the beginning of the season and two new kids who started at the end of the season. So I don’t know much about the mini ROK or its cost or anything. I do know this, the kid kart class with a comer has been the starting point for most any kid who started racing at the age of five. It has worked forever and I ask, why fix something thats not broke? If your son or daughter starts at the young age of five which both my kids did the comer lasts you three years. A brand new turn key kart with a comer is somewhere between 1850.00 to 2500.00. depending on which manufacturer you go with. Also with that being said we keep talking about putting an engine on that will last 6-7 years and thats all great but after kid kart class you still need a bigger chassis for the larger engine package. So wich is more cost effective? A kid kart chassis has 25mm tubes and short wheelbase desighned for a light weight motor such as the comer or the honda. In my opinion the kid kart should be used as the foundation for kids and there family to get into racing and see if there kids even want to race. It should be used as a stepping stone to teach them how to drive, what a racing line is how to be aware of whats around you and most of all have fun we all know if a kid is not having fun he or she isn’t going to want to do it. The competition aspect can come later. So I ask why fix something thats not broke?? With returning kids and new kids who bought karts and the end of last season we should have seven full time kids next year. I have commited to the Track to be the kid kart sponser for at least two more years. So as a karting community get the word out that there is a true kid kart class and lets get the number of little guys and gals up. They are the future of this sport!!! :~ 😀
October 19, 2013 at 4:06 pm #66752Eddy WyattParticipantJesse makes some very good points.
October 19, 2013 at 6:16 pm #66753dlovebusParticipantStan if you are looking for a used kid kart, I have one listed in the classifieds. Our son Josh started with this kart and did very well. The Comer racing at The Track is a very good place for a child to learn and develop an enjoyment of the sport. The CJKC is also a good series for young racers. The CJKC uses the Briggs and Stratton engine. I don’t think parents need to be chasing around a third type of engine in the state of Colorado.
October 22, 2013 at 9:32 pm #66754JMacLeodParticipantWell it is some what broke. You can only run a comer at Centennial or GJ. CJKC well your stuck with what track they can run and no where else. The idea here is a motor the Baby Rok. It is light. It can go on a Kid kart. You can get a whole new set up for about $1650. shipped through SKUSA if they run the deal again. You then decide well my kid likes it, we then move to a cadet chassis and change out the exhaust and restricter. You only have to get a chassis not another whole motor too. With a comer you have buy a whole new set up used or not. I knowing what I know now would never put a Briggs on a kid kart. Been there done, that its too heavy, however the CJKC is a great start. This is not to necessarily to replace either of those option, but rather to give those who do want to race more than a weekend a month or be restricted to where they run another option. An option to be able to grow with a motor and be able to race at a reginial or nationial level in the future. This is also to try and help bring more karter’s together and keep cost down while letting kids experience more racing. This is just an idea I am out of kid karts, but have friends that are stuck only running CJKC because the lack of kid kart options.
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