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The following link is to http://www.kartweb.com and it details their efforts to come up with shifter classes that combine the various engines to make them competitive at the local/regional level. I think they are the basis for discusion on how to grow our shifter ranks next year.
http://www.kartweb.com/Standards/ShifterStandards8-24.htm
Any comments?
As a newcomer, I love it. Group 3 has lots of options, and we can decide what to run based on weight, tolerance for engine maintenance, and whatever used package we can get the best deal on (or a new stock engine). It not only gives me a class to run a reliable stock engine, but Jr80’s can move up to seniors without changing equipment (I assume this is a sr. class proposal).
The problem is that the current S2 and Sr/Hvy guys with ICCs don’t have a place to play. We could put more weight on them for Group 2, but 435lbs. seems like alot.
They don’t mention the tire restrictions, but that should be an easy decision.
Doug (and sons) – would this structure tempt you back into shifters?
I hope we take this proposal seriously.
Am I reading correctly that for the 80s the weight suggested is 350#? If so, that means I’ll be hanging an additional 30# on Alex’s seat for a total of 59# of lead ! This seems to be unrealistic weight given the size of most kids in the jr class. (Please don’t suggest that the kid just hit the weight room and drink protein shakes to avoid this.)
Because SKUSA’s 2005 rules still show the 80s weight at 320 (330 w/fronts) we would have the same problem with weight as we currently have with the CSC ignition and airbox/air filter rules — data generated at CSC events doesn’t transfer to national events.
So, my suggestion is to break the 80s out of the Kartweb structure, keep the weights in line with SKUSA/STARS, allow a PI and require airboxes.
(By the way, SKUSA’s new airbox rules allow for an airbox that incorporates a filter that should not reduce performance.)
Jim
The KartWeb structure on the 80 is for K1 or seniors. Juniors would still run at 320/330. The idea for the 80 at 350 is to make them competitive if a racer who is moving up in age did not want to move up to a 125. Right now, there isn’t a viable place for an 80 senior.
Would like to see a bone stock shifter package.
This would keep the cost relatively low.
Shifter kart racing without all the high engine cost and maint.
This might help grow the sport to those of us who would like to keep
costs down.
more driver talent less moneyI, for one, support putting the lid on the “arms race” in shifters. SKUSA has seen the handwriting on the wall and is going to bring back the moto package. As long as there are sensible tech rules established, the moto engine can be extremely reliable. Limits on head cc’s is a good place to start. This will make PI’s a moot point. Less compression means a much longer lasting motor. This in turn means that the focus returns to kart setup and the driver where it should be.
I haven’t been to a national event this year, but I’ve heard the numbers are down………pretty drastically. This is reflective of exploding racing expenses and the soft economy. We want to encourage new karters to enter the sport, not the opposite. Sure, a national shifter championship may still carry a six figure price tag, but in a local series this kind of money is just plain nuts.
Changes need to be made. My opinion, and I’m sticking to it! 😆
I would also support a stock Moto class. I’m not ready to move up from TaG yet, but in the next few years, I would like to, without spending HUGE amounts of money that is required now.
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