Club Racing @ The Track

Jay:

I’m not an active karter right now…. but second that. Lots of good people here that deserve your business.

The cross-track politics I’ve heard of hurt everyone. As a racer, just have fun and let the best rise to the top.

Enjoy every tenth.

Lets see if I understand. You need a 1999 Honda CR125 to race stock moto or a 2008 or newer Rotax to race Rotax?

Rodney,

Two very different approaches to spec racing, eh? :loony:

To bad for all the old Rotax are you feeling like a redheaded stepchild ? Dont worry Jim will let you all be back markers ! Go green get a four stroke and youll never run that 25 moving parts weedwacker again ! Talk to me and i will let you do a few in Rons 420 lb kart ! See yall soon . jed

I am a new karter, started practicing last summer so I wouldn’t be in everyone’s way when racing. Realize I will still be in everyone’s way now but at least negotiating the track and knowing where the fat, slow old man can get out of your way now had planned on racing this season at both IMI and TT. Sad to see they are prejudice to 4 strokes and anything not Rotax.

In my work it has become obvious that the Green Team will make everything illegal that does not have a strong lobby. We as kart racers that are dumb enough to think we are exempt just need to look around us. First boats, then snow machines in Yellowstone, next motorcycles are almost all the way there. Don’t think we are not on the list. California will eliminate 2 cycles in the next 5 years or so. Houston and a few of the major eastern cities are next. With Denver and Colorado’s strong Green Government it is pretty well a given we will be on the list.

I am not anti 2 cycle or Rotax, my early racing was 2 cycle drag bikes. It is a great engine and simple. But 4 stroke power is almost there if not caught up. Just as fast, cleaner, uses less fuel, and doesn’t require as much tuning. My time is limited these days so although my understanding of tuning the 2 cycle is better, 4 cycle is easier and a lot less work weekend to weekend. Throw it on the trailer and race with very little work.

Good luck with the decision I don’t want to see all these track politics anymore then they already are over this new strategy.

Jim, your track is great, love it. But by default now my money will pretty much all go to IMI this year. Obviously your customers are noticing the new policy. Furthermore it does not just affect non-Rotax owners, it affects all owners who don’t have a 2009 or newer engine if you are Rotax. Now they have to lay out a grand or more and don’t even end up with a back-up motor for that oh-$#!%.

The way it looks, any racers who aren’t wanting to layout an extra $1000 to $1500 (depending on how good the trade in is) for a new engine on a kart that already works great for them are going to a new track. Especially 4 cycle owners. If your engine is relatively new as Gunter put it, a $5000 Vampire is a trade in for 2 Rotax’s and that isn’t going to happen. So those people are going to take a beating and not even get a trophy from the pretty girl in the winners circle because they have to learn a new engine and probably driving techniques this season.

It would really be interesting to hear what people are getting for their motors they trade in??? And, what happens to the old engines, Rotax is really going to mill a perfectly good Vampire are they?

Sorry for all the wordy stuff but that is the newbee on the blocks 2 cents!

All you will need for the older Rotax Is a new cylinder 09/10 and I don’t belive that’s in all classes only ones that want punches to the nationals and to qualify for the worlds. ( I think?) I didn’t take the few minutes needed to go to Rotax.com to confirm that so I’m speculating somewhat. I’m sure Jim K would have a much better handle on the rules for his series just email him.

Since there happens to be several very dissatisfied customers with the TTAC series. Why don’t you try different approach with them? With a suggestions. Maybe adding an open class but, it would have to have X amount of drivers to be worth wild. I think one of the problems with the open class has been lack of entries and tech so you would have to rally the troops and come up with some kind of compromise that would make it happen with a minimum amount of entries or something. One other thing maybe no tech for the open class and you all run together. Rotax would be excluded from this class. Just a thought. Something a couple of us were throwing around this weekend In California.

I would hate to see us loose a bunch more familiar faces and fewer entries. We have had enough of that the last three years we need to stop the bleeding somehow. There are two many choices in CO and not enough drivers. This doesn’t help anyone out, neither the tracks nor the customers, if we loose entries. If it was up to me I would rather see all Rotax/Shifters (I’m very bias) I totally understand the additional cost of this great hobby we love so much in this incredible economy we have here, is really tuff.

There are several great deals out there on equipment nation wide so maybe with the money you will be saving with pump gas you could put that towards the new cylinder for the Rotax. There are several local Rotax dealers here in CO that could change it for you.

I will even go a step further I have two 09 cylinders that im not using. One of them is brand new never ran and the other is used. Email me and I will sell them very cheap to you if that would help you out.

Hello Rotax Racers.

Just a quick note.

You may race in both series with a US legal, sealed Rotax motor. You will need a new style airbox. Thanks all.

If you go to the Grand Nationals, you will need the new clutch and 09 and newer head.

Pretty easy.

Thanks,
Jim