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  • #49569
    stacey cook
    Participant

    AJ, has pulled off the RMAX website:

    Minimax

    Age 9-12
    255 lbs. minimum
    Mandatory use of junior cylinder and restrictors as specified by ROTAX, or other restrictors that may be required by the 2005 USRMC Rules Primer.
    Spec gear optional at Race Director’s discretion.
    Chassis per 2005 USRMC Rules Primer.
    Wide bumpers covering both rear wheels mandatory by the 2005 USRMC Grand Nationals. Bumpers must cover a minimum of half of the tire, but may not extend past the edge of the tire.
    Rigid Plastic or composite Chest Protectors mandatory, shoulder protection recommended.

    Junior

    Age 13-15
    315 lbs. minimum
    Official junior class for Grand Finals qualification.
    Mandatory use of a junior cylinder without exhaust valve.
    No Junior class competitor may attain the actual age of 17-years-old prior to 1 January 2005.

    International

    Age 16+
    365 lbs. minimum
    Official class for Grand Finals qualification.

    Masters

    Age 16+
    405 lbs. minimum
    Drivers less than 31-years-old must have a minimum driver weight of 190 pounds including all race apparel except helmet.
    Optional front brakes allowed, must be actuated by foot brake pedal.

    RM1

    Age 16+
    385 lbs. minimum
    Official class for Grand Finals qualification.
    Mandatory use of RM-1 chassis and DD2 engine.

    2005 Class Age Guidelines

    Competitor must reach minimum age prior to December 31, 2005. All competitors under the age of 18 must submit a copy of birth certificate or passport with license application.
    A Minimax driver cannot compete until their 8th birthday. To compete at the Grand Nationals, they must reach their 9th Birthday before December 31st, 2005. Minimax drivers can compete until their 13th birthday is reached. DOB: 1/1/93-12/31/96
    A Junior driver cannot compete until their 12th birthday. To compete at the Grand Nationals, they must reach their 13th birthday before December 31st, 2005. Junior Drivers can compete until their 17th birthday is reached. DOB: 12/31/89-12/31/92
    A Senior driver cannot compete until their 15th birthday. To compete at the Grand Nationals, as a Senior driver, they must reach their 15th birthday before September 22nd, 2005. DOB: 9/22/90 –

    Competitors participating in an Official Rmax Challenge Series Event must hold a 2005 Rmax License. It is the responsibility of the Racer and the RMax Challenge Series Administrator to insure all competitors hold a valid 2005 Rotax Max License. License provides constant communication between driver and Rotax directors to insure all drivers understand the rules of Rotax and information. At venues where participation numbers require classes to run together all those entered in the Official Rotax Class(es) must follow all Rotax Series Rules and specifications. Official race report sent to the US Rotax Administrator should only include those who hold a current license in that class, in that series.

    #49570
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    So this rule is only for Rotax challange, and not for TAGUSA right?

    #49571
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    well, are these rules for imi or just for national events? Im 15 , 16 in august, and im runninga rotax max 125, and im not experienced. Which class can i run wiht out having to change the motor or any parts?
    thanks
    Scott

    #49572
    stacey cook
    Participant

    My understanding is TAG USA is going to be the same..

    #49573
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I talked to TAGUSA, and senior motors will be alowed in the JR class with the restrictions in their rules. So I guess it is only for JR Rotax.

    #49574
    Doug Welch
    Participant

    Last year we allowed unrestricted senior motors at senior weights in TaG Jr. I hope this year the CSC follows TaG USA and drops this. Senior motors with restrictors are TaG USA rules.

    #49575
    stacey cook
    Participant

    Doug and AJ, you have me confused 😯 AJ what you are saying is that 😯 😯 TAG USA will allow the Senior package in Tag Jr?
    and Doug you are saying we shouldn’t do that?

    #49576
    Joe Rosse
    Participant

    When there is a specific, accepted configuration of the Rotax motor for the junior class, why confuse things by allowing the Senior motor??!! This is not an expensive modification, it takes one more variable out of the equation, and it adds safety.

    #49577
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Stacey, yes it is my understanding that in TAGUSA you can run the senior motor with the restictions that TAGUSA has in their rule book. This is only for TAGUSA JR not ROTAX JR. So if the CSC follows TAGUSA rules this would be allowed right?

    I think Doug was saying last year the JR class used Senior motors and added weight to make it fair.
    Hope this helps

    #49578
    Doug Welch
    Participant

    Last year in the CSC, we allowed TaG junior to run senior motors without restrictors to run at senior weights. Rotax juniors in the same class ran at junior weights and were at a strong disadvantage.

    TaG USA has rules for Tag junior motors. With the exception of Rotax junior, they are bascially senior motors with some form of restrictors to bring the power down. In the case of the leopard, its an exhaust restrictor. The Vortex Rok uses a different pipe. The Biland was to use a single carb in place of the dual setup.

    This year, I would hope that we would put a stop to that.(senior motors without restrictions) TaG junior should be per Tag Junior rules including all restrictors as per TaG USA rules.

    #49579
    stacey cook
    Participant

    Doug and A, I agree with what both of you are saying however what that means for the Rotax is it must be the JR cylinder and not a senior cylinder with extra weight…

    #49580
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    dang, i really hope that they allow the sr motor in the jr class cause im sure that ill get killed if i race in tag sr…..

    #49581
    stacey cook
    Participant

    Scott, we can take your senior cylinder in trade for a JR Cylinder if you need one…

    #49582
    Doug Welch
    Participant

    Scott

    You should race in the class where your age dictates. If your age puts you in the senior class, thats where you should be. You should have the correct equipment for that class and age. If you are a junior in age and you have a senior engine, the switch for you is very easy. It is simply the cylinder. It is one of the major advantages of owning a Rotax. Very simple changes to go from one class to the next keeping the same basic motor package.

    Any Rotax dealer can handle the swap and you will be surprised how reatlively inexpensive it can be. Then in a year when you are ready for the senior class, a simple swap of the cylinder and off you go.

    By the way, in either class, you’re going to get your hat handed to you. The juniors maybe juniors, but some of them will have been racing for years. 😀

    #49583
    Joe Rosse
    Participant

    BTW, my reading of the TAGUSA rules is that the only Rotax engine allowed in TAG Junior is the Junior version of the FR 125:

    http://www.tagracing.net/rules/index.html

    Which seems to be as it should. As Doug says, Stacey or Barry should be able to change a full FR125 engine to a Junior engine (just change the cylinder) for relatively low cost. Then when you’re ready to move up, you can just switch back. And no hassling over power valve maintenance in the meantime! 😛

    Now, can someone explain to me why the TAGUSA rules call for the same weight (320#) for Rotax, Vortek, Parilla Leopard, and Biland in the Junior category, but far different weights for these engines in the Senior category (365, 400, 370, 385 respectively)?? As I understand it, the Rotax Jr engine is the only one of the 5 that is de-powered in Junior class–so why does it have the same minimum weight as, say, a Biland for which the Powers That Be determined extra weight was needed to compensate for its extra power?? What am I missing here??? :idn:

    (Sorry if the Biland is a sore point–the same principle applies to the other engines.)

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