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Very few races make money on their own. The vast majority of races outside NASCRAP need an influx of cash to make them viable. Without a coporate sponsor, the Denver GP would have never happened in the first place. Since they are gone, its no surpise that the event is gone. Just another reason to do the Rotax Grands!
(Shamless plug)
NASCRAP? Give me a break. I would say that open wheel is crap. Cant even get a sponsor for their races. Or enough people to watch. Lame.But what do I know, I race Briggs engines.:shock:
Like Brian Robson said in an earlier post: Mixed feelings about the whole thing re. open wheel.
Tony George has the crown Jewel, the Indy 500. TG also changed his blueprint into another spec series, ala Champ car. Kevin Kalhoven’s ego is as big as TG’s and doesn’t want to lose this battle, but his crown jewel is what – I’m trying to figure out. So both sides lose and we’re the chumps that suffer. I’d like to see both sides fail and perhaps the Phoenix will rise from the ashes. TG, love him or hate him has the $$$ to win since the Brickyard and F1 race just put money into his coffers to finance the IRL (right Brian) and that beast ain’t going away.
In the meantime, I’ll watch the other spec series, WWF err, NASCAR and see what AJ and Juan Pablo can do and enjoy it. At least they have fans in the seats and I always enjoy my middle of the race siesta.
Bitter, party of one out…
You can’t help but ask, will SSC change the location of the Rotax Grand Nationals if the Champ race doesn’t happen in Denver? Remember last year? SSC announced the grands would be in our backyard in Utah and got a lot of people excited. Later they changed the venue to Road America so it would co-incide with the Champ car race there. The dates were set this year to go hand in hand with the Champ car race in Denver. I certainly hope it doesn’t happen but I won’t be surprised if we see another announcement soon.
Now that you are all bummed out about the reality of a street race in Denver, wait until you hear the latest PPIR rumors.
This is what CO has needed for a long time, and it sounds like it is going to happen.
And please, no bitching about the location. It beats West KS!
How’s that for a teaser Dougie?
@larry toby wrote:
You can’t help but ask, will SSC change the location of the Rotax Grand Nationals if the Champ race doesn’t happen in Denver? Remember last year?
There are signed contracts in hand. With Miller, there were no contracts. The deal with Champ Car is little more than a marketing agreement to show karts.
PPIR. All those tear down and scrape stories were bad rumors. Just wait till you see the new deal. That’s all I can say for now. Sorry.
LOL I wish. If you don’t own at least a prancing stallion, they aren’t interested in the likes of us.
It couldn’t have helped that the Democratic convention is coming to Denver. I can’t imagine the security folks would be wild about having a race right around the Pepsi Center the week before the convention.
It’s a bummer, but of course all the Rotaxians wouldn’t have had much time to enjoy the Champ Car event anyway. (Yeah, I know, sour grapes!)
Larry’s got a good point about Rotax having a history of making changes in venues, but as I understand it, Rotax pretty well knew that the Denver GP was history when they made the decision to bring Nationals here. Sounds like they realized Colorado is a great location regardless of the Champ Car connection.
The Rotax guys realized that Champ Car gave them zip, diddly, nada, nothing for being at RA last year. In fact, they had to pay through the nose. Add to that the Rotaxians were treated like second class citizens to Motard drivers, that’s pretty low on the ‘ol totum pole.
Lets give Jim credit, he made the offer to Rotax pretty sweet. Jim offered them things they didn’t think they could get and if I know Jim, he will do this thing up right. Look for big time corporate sponsorship and perks like we have never seen at any level of karting. If anything, the lose of the DGP is better for us. There is still s certain level of corporate $$$ sitting out there looking to be spent, and a certain promotor we all know will work very hard to get some of them. Some are looking at this as a set back, I see this as a great opportunity. If anything, it has the potential to better for us with Champ Car gone.
Doug….I thought Greg was your prancing stallion. And I bet they do love you or at least your money!
Mikey :cheers:
Doug,
I agree that the Rotax Nationals at Road America had some problems, although it sounded to me like it was poor communication/planning among RA, Champ Car and Rotax rather than Champ Car dissing Rotax. Despite that, though, it was pretty magical to have Formula BMWs, Atlantics and Champ Cars practicing and qualifying right around us while working on our karts in our pits. Pat and I won’t forget that experience anytime soon!
That to me is the bummer of Champ Car not coming to Denver–it was our opportunity to have professional open wheel racing in our midst. I agree that not having the Denver Grand Prix shouldn’t detract from the RMC Nationals. But it does detract from the local racing scene more generally. Let’s hope that the rumors about PPIR, Genoa, etc. will replace the loss of the Denver GP (for the second time!) Meanwhile, we can look forward to having the Rotax Nationals here! :cheers:
The folks over on the SCCA forum were wondering if this article is the same article you all were talking about, let me know and I’ll get back to them.
http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1326878&secid=4
Thanks,
Savannah
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